Growing up, people imagine themselves in all sorts of fields of work, from businessmen and businesswomen, to princes and princesses, presidents, dancers, chefs, and beyond. Though, as kids, many of them aspire to do something to make the world a better place – a safer place, a nicer place, which often means trying to become a nurse or a police officer.
But guardian angels come in all shapes and forms, and for many people, it’s bodyguards that make the world a safer place. Some people on Quora were curious about what being a bodyguard entails, so they started discussions about what it’s like to be responsible for the safety of a celebrity, a wealthy person, or a billionaire. Many representatives of the profession shared their stories, so if you, too, are curious to learn about their experiences, scroll down to find their answers on the list below.
#1
I have protected wealthy folks, but generally steered clear of celebrities. I have protected famous people from Michigan on short-term contracts lasting only days or weeks and have worked with other security professionals when celebrities have visited Michigan.
The primary reason that I refrain from celebrity security is the stress, hours, and peril. Crowd control, Paparazzi, stalkers, obsessive fans, the celebrity’s entourage all tend to suck and create a lot of unnecessary stress. The hours depending upon who the celebrity is can be long, manic, and inconsistent making it impossible to have a life of your own. By peril, it’s not what most think; protecting most celebrities isn’t all that dangerous per se. It’s the legal peril; d***s, recklessness, civil liability, domestic disputes, many celebrities who need protection or at least think they do are dysfunctional persons. That’s too much liability for me, I don’t want negative publicity attached to my name, I don’t want to be named in a civil suit, etc.
I have friends, colleagues, and acquaintances that work in NYC, LA, and Palm Springs. When I was getting started in the business I considered pursuing that avenue, there are advantages, but I ended up focusing on corporate security more so and it paid the bills so I stuck around.
My personality is firm, dry, quiet, and calculated when I am working. This is congruent to most executives, they don’t bother me and I don’t bother them, we both have a job to do and respect one another. In situations that become long-term my personality softens, most of the time the protectee does as well. It’s not uncommon to become friendly with one another, have a drink at the end of the day, bounce ideas, or ask advice of one another. I have four degrees, including a masters in business, so I often have an understanding of what the protectee is working on. In other words, I relate to the corporate world. Since I was a partner in my firm, I was the point-of-contact for the client, ancillary security and drivers’ didn’t have as much interaction as I did with the client. Often, I was in arm’s length of a client all day long.
Wealth is an interesting status, it means different things to different people. Some inherited wealth through a family business, some built the business, some squandered the business. Some are generous, some are cheap. I had a client who would reheat hours old coffee, and another who threw away $500 dress shirts after one use. I ate White Castles in a Rolls Royce, drank $8/bottle rum on a million dollar boat. I had a client attempt to open the door of his jet while we were airborne, he was black-out drunk. Conservative, liberal; Compassionate, Spiteful; People come in all varieties and some hold their cards close to the vest and it’ll take a while to figure them out.
The largest driver for me was a normal lifestyle. Most of the wealthy clients who worked in the business world were fairly predictable in their needs, which allowed myself and contractors to have our own lives. Most don’t require 24/7 security, anonymity is their best protection, many won’t recognize a CEO of a Fortune 50, let alone a Fortune 500, and those that do aren’t really a threat. Much of the work is threat assessment, client awarness, travel surveillance, and possessing emergency/contigent plans in place for catastrophic events to the business. Very few have Secret Service-like security details, although all the clients have access to emergency security that will bring a SWAT team pressence to their home or business if needed.
It is just one more facet of people I was able to observe and learn from, all the good things and some of the bad things.
The primary reason that I refrain from celebrity security is the stress, hours, and peril. Crowd control, Paparazzi, stalkers, obsessive fans, the celebrity’s entourage all tend to suck and create a lot of unnecessary stress. The hours depending upon who the celebrity is can be long, manic, and inconsistent making it impossible to have a life of your own. By peril, it’s not what most think; protecting most celebrities isn’t all that dangerous per se. It’s the legal peril; d***s, recklessness, civil liability, domestic disputes, many celebrities who need protection or at least think they do are dysfunctional persons. That’s too much liability for me, I don’t want negative publicity attached to my name, I don’t want to be named in a civil suit, etc.
I have friends, colleagues, and acquaintances that work in NYC, LA, and Palm Springs. When I was getting started in the business I considered pursuing that avenue, there are advantages, but I ended up focusing on corporate security more so and it paid the bills so I stuck around.
My personality is firm, dry, quiet, and calculated when I am working. This is congruent to most executives, they don’t bother me and I don’t bother them, we both have a job to do and respect one another. In situations that become long-term my personality softens, most of the time the protectee does as well. It’s not uncommon to become friendly with one another, have a drink at the end of the day, bounce ideas, or ask advice of one another. I have four degrees, including a masters in business, so I often have an understanding of what the protectee is working on. In other words, I relate to the corporate world. Since I was a partner in my firm, I was the point-of-contact for the client, ancillary security and drivers’ didn’t have as much interaction as I did with the client. Often, I was in arm’s length of a client all day long.
Wealth is an interesting status, it means different things to different people. Some inherited wealth through a family business, some built the business, some squandered the business. Some are generous, some are cheap. I had a client who would reheat hours old coffee, and another who threw away $500 dress shirts after one use. I ate White Castles in a Rolls Royce, drank $8/bottle rum on a million dollar boat. I had a client attempt to open the door of his jet while we were airborne, he was black-out drunk. Conservative, liberal; Compassionate, Spiteful; People come in all varieties and some hold their cards close to the vest and it’ll take a while to figure them out.
The largest driver for me was a normal lifestyle. Most of the wealthy clients who worked in the business world were fairly predictable in their needs, which allowed myself and contractors to have our own lives. Most don’t require 24/7 security, anonymity is their best protection, many won’t recognize a CEO of a Fortune 50, let alone a Fortune 500, and those that do aren’t really a threat. Much of the work is threat assessment, client awarness, travel surveillance, and possessing emergency/contigent plans in place for catastrophic events to the business. Very few have Secret Service-like security details, although all the clients have access to emergency security that will bring a SWAT team pressence to their home or business if needed.
It is just one more facet of people I was able to observe and learn from, all the good things and some of the bad things.
34points
#2
It depends on the client. But generally it’s a little different from company senior execs, business world leaders or other clients as you have a very visible public image to contend with. Quite often, Celebs have an idea of how they think an Executive Protection (EP) agent/officer should dress or act and they want their teams to act in that manner. You will sometimes see a large thug that is with a celebrity, this is purely for image and does not necessarily add to their protection. In fact, a professional EP team would effectively blend in with the clients lifestyle and is often undistinguished from the rest of the clients friends/family and admin team.
One of the hardest things to contend with in the celebrity industry is that there are a lot of cowboys out there that think because they are large/strong, have trained in martial arts or are legally able to carry a firearm, that this gives them the ability to work as an EP officer. This is not the case, a professional EP officer should have a full understanding of current industry standards and processes (standard operating procedures), as well as continual development training in skills such as medical. It is my belief that you are not an effective EP officer if you are not qualified in basic/intermediate life support.
Most people think that an EP officer or “bodyguard” is purely reactive, but in reality, the true professionals are pro-active in identifying, analyzing and transferring or mitigating any risks to their client. Something that probably 75% of people that claim to be in the industry do not understand. Instead, people just try to muscle their way into positions but that are not actually trained to a high enough standard.
One of the hardest things to contend with in the celebrity industry is that there are a lot of cowboys out there that think because they are large/strong, have trained in martial arts or are legally able to carry a firearm, that this gives them the ability to work as an EP officer. This is not the case, a professional EP officer should have a full understanding of current industry standards and processes (standard operating procedures), as well as continual development training in skills such as medical. It is my belief that you are not an effective EP officer if you are not qualified in basic/intermediate life support.
Most people think that an EP officer or “bodyguard” is purely reactive, but in reality, the true professionals are pro-active in identifying, analyzing and transferring or mitigating any risks to their client. Something that probably 75% of people that claim to be in the industry do not understand. Instead, people just try to muscle their way into positions but that are not actually trained to a high enough standard.
28points
#3
It's thrilling, & can be complex at peak times, normal or even boring at other times. It depends on what the job is.
I took a job where I provided around the clock protective services for the entire family of a major household appliances (think of it as Mr. Whirlpool, or Mr. Bosch) owner. He was remarrying & there was a reason we were there, his "need" for protective services won't be discussed, but it came down to assigning teams for the clients, house monitoring, roving patrols and scouts. It was a very pleasant job, with nice people celebrating, amazing catering, and the clients friends were feeling safe, & were enjoying the wealth of the family, at every turn during that weekend.
On the night before the big day, I was on house duty when the big boss came home pretty drunk. He asked me to join him in his study for a nice chat. And I realized that I had a chance here to talk comfortably with a billionaire about anything. It was fascinating, there is a difference in how these people think. That's a fact. The most intriguing part was the question; he asked me, if I could do anything I want; if money is not the problem... What would I do?
I told him, he quietly pondered for a few minutes, constantly running his finger around the rim of his glass of scotch, pulled me closer to him, & whispered in my ear; "you're not dreaming big enough."
I've been pondering this ever since. So if you ask me, what's it like to be a billionaire personal protective agent? I'd say; it depends on your client. I just told you the story of a "cool" client, other clients make you pick up their dogs poop during a "walk with the dog."
Most of the clients we have are businessmen or women who spend absurd amounts of time at work. When they work, you work. You are in a holding pattern. You hangout a lot in hallways and corridors, Drink a lot of coffee, pace & watch your surroundings.
When they go on trips, you're already there, you've ran reconnaissance & have routes (as in multiple) to travel. Ground teams, etc. There is a lot of communication going on between the "hats" (protection team).
There are formations we form and ways we have our client covered from all angles, usually unseen to the majority of the people, it is in these moments work is intense.
You know what we look for? Faces/hands.
That's what we are scanning. Emotions on the face, activity starts with the hands, so that's what we are watching in your red carpet scenario.
It depends, but is always intriguing.
I took a job where I provided around the clock protective services for the entire family of a major household appliances (think of it as Mr. Whirlpool, or Mr. Bosch) owner. He was remarrying & there was a reason we were there, his "need" for protective services won't be discussed, but it came down to assigning teams for the clients, house monitoring, roving patrols and scouts. It was a very pleasant job, with nice people celebrating, amazing catering, and the clients friends were feeling safe, & were enjoying the wealth of the family, at every turn during that weekend.
On the night before the big day, I was on house duty when the big boss came home pretty drunk. He asked me to join him in his study for a nice chat. And I realized that I had a chance here to talk comfortably with a billionaire about anything. It was fascinating, there is a difference in how these people think. That's a fact. The most intriguing part was the question; he asked me, if I could do anything I want; if money is not the problem... What would I do?
I told him, he quietly pondered for a few minutes, constantly running his finger around the rim of his glass of scotch, pulled me closer to him, & whispered in my ear; "you're not dreaming big enough."
I've been pondering this ever since. So if you ask me, what's it like to be a billionaire personal protective agent? I'd say; it depends on your client. I just told you the story of a "cool" client, other clients make you pick up their dogs poop during a "walk with the dog."
Most of the clients we have are businessmen or women who spend absurd amounts of time at work. When they work, you work. You are in a holding pattern. You hangout a lot in hallways and corridors, Drink a lot of coffee, pace & watch your surroundings.
When they go on trips, you're already there, you've ran reconnaissance & have routes (as in multiple) to travel. Ground teams, etc. There is a lot of communication going on between the "hats" (protection team).
There are formations we form and ways we have our client covered from all angles, usually unseen to the majority of the people, it is in these moments work is intense.
You know what we look for? Faces/hands.
That's what we are scanning. Emotions on the face, activity starts with the hands, so that's what we are watching in your red carpet scenario.
It depends, but is always intriguing.
25points
#4
Bodyguard/ driver that worked for a section of the Saudi royal family for a few summers Here. Really the craziest thing I ever saw was the sheer amount of money these people spent. I watched the grandmother go in to I can't remember what big store in LA, sit on each floor on the way up and shopped while sitting down visually, and through a catalog. The entire bill at the end of her 1 hr trip to this store came out to about $150,000. She was buying gifts for her family back home and or where ever else they lived. It took 3 escalade to go back to their house just with the stuff we were able to carry out of the store to bring back to their home in OC. Everything else was shipped home on a private cargo plane.
Also when they were finished with their stay, an entire 3 car garage was filled to the max with boxes of purchases from that summer and had to be shipped as well. I never thought I could see that much money spent in a two month period. Upwards of close to $1,000,000 of stuff. They just carried wads of $100's each new time they went out, and would not stop shopping until it was all gone. Not including purchases on their "black cards"
I should mention the certain part of the family I worked for was only two steps down from the the crowned family.
On that same summer I actually got to meet one of the crowned princes. Nicest guy I ever met. Wentry up to his home in the hills of LA, and spent about 12 hours there just hanging out. They made me take my suit down to where I was as comfortable as can be, then kept bringing drinks too me, food, you name it. He even gave me a couple hundred bucks just for being there.
The cars at his house, my god the collecton he had was just baffling.
Edit: own my phone, don't really feel like formatting/grammar. Come at me yo..
Also when they were finished with their stay, an entire 3 car garage was filled to the max with boxes of purchases from that summer and had to be shipped as well. I never thought I could see that much money spent in a two month period. Upwards of close to $1,000,000 of stuff. They just carried wads of $100's each new time they went out, and would not stop shopping until it was all gone. Not including purchases on their "black cards"
I should mention the certain part of the family I worked for was only two steps down from the the crowned family.
On that same summer I actually got to meet one of the crowned princes. Nicest guy I ever met. Wentry up to his home in the hills of LA, and spent about 12 hours there just hanging out. They made me take my suit down to where I was as comfortable as can be, then kept bringing drinks too me, food, you name it. He even gave me a couple hundred bucks just for being there.
The cars at his house, my god the collecton he had was just baffling.
Edit: own my phone, don't really feel like formatting/grammar. Come at me yo..
20points
#5
Most executive protection (bodyguard) assignments are 1% pure adrenaline mixed with 99% sheer boredom. Consequently, training oneself to stay mentally focused (i.e., poised to respond when that "1%" pops up) through hour after hour of a routine, uneventful shift is key. Another point that most outsiders (as well as many in the E.P. industry) don't realize is that, especially for a longer-term assignment, your principal (protectee) has to like you or at a minimum, not dislike you. Too many newbies flounder in this business because they fail to recognize that it's not just about being a "bad a*s" or even just about being good at your job. To succeed, it helps to have a personality and some people skills.
19points
#6
I specialize in executive and personal protection, and over the years I have guarded many well known clients.
Celebrities are always some of the most ‘difficult’ clients. Not because they are rude or don’t listen, but because they are well known. My job is to provide security and protection to my client, and to be discrete and not known that I am there.
I’ve done everything from special formations around the clients, to checking guest lists, to background checks, and even as far as special vehicle formations, where others don’t know what vehicle my clients are in. I have been in multiple situations where my goal is to protect my client and get out of the area we are in. If my client is threatened or in a compromising position, me and my team have roles we take. At the start of our shift or rotation, me and my team go over what our roles are.
Say I have a client named ray. Say ray is a celebrity and well known, and has a 5 person security detail. If Ray is entering an event where there are many potential threats, we will have a formation that has been pre-decided. It may change once we get there due to conditions, and it may change many times over the course of our shift.
If Ray is threatened, that’s when we really need to step into place. I am typically the guard in charge, and out of say 5 people, if there is one attacker, I would have 3 guards with my client, the other 2 would engage the threat if visibly seen, and our goal is not to chase the threat and take them down, our goal is to protect our client. I have been in situations where we rush our client into either a pre-decided safe spot or into their vehicle, and we get to safety. We don’t engage into the threat unless we really need to (If they are right in front of us, or coming after us that’s when we engage)
If I have to, I would take my life for my client. It’s part of my job, and all guards are expected to. I hope I never have to be in that situation, but I need to be prepared. When I’m with a client I always need to be ready. Wether it’s protecting them, engaging in hand to hand combat, or even using my firearm I need to be ready. I am trained in self protection and protection of others, and pursuit driving. The vehicle I drive for work is typically a Chevrolet suburban or a Range Rover. Both are armored and have reinforced body panels and glass, which makes them much heavier. I drive a Ford Expedition and Cadillac Escalade, as well as my wife Lincoln Navigator for work. All of these vehicles are extremely similar to a suburban, but since the suburban is reinforced, it weighs and handles a lot differently. Acceleration is much slower, and braking power is reduced. I need to be able to safely and effectively drive my clients around to wherever they wish to go, and if I’m in the situation where I need to drive aggressively to keep my clients safe, I need to know how to do that. The company I work for does not go easy on training. It’s constant, and random, so we don’t always know when or what we are doing for it. It keeps us on our game, and if we can do maneuvers while under high amounts of pressure, we can do it when we aren’t under much pressure.
So when I protect clients I do sometimes have to take risks and measures that typically wouldn’t be taken, but it’s part of the job, and it keeps my clients safe.
Celebrities are always some of the most ‘difficult’ clients. Not because they are rude or don’t listen, but because they are well known. My job is to provide security and protection to my client, and to be discrete and not known that I am there.
I’ve done everything from special formations around the clients, to checking guest lists, to background checks, and even as far as special vehicle formations, where others don’t know what vehicle my clients are in. I have been in multiple situations where my goal is to protect my client and get out of the area we are in. If my client is threatened or in a compromising position, me and my team have roles we take. At the start of our shift or rotation, me and my team go over what our roles are.
Say I have a client named ray. Say ray is a celebrity and well known, and has a 5 person security detail. If Ray is entering an event where there are many potential threats, we will have a formation that has been pre-decided. It may change once we get there due to conditions, and it may change many times over the course of our shift.
If Ray is threatened, that’s when we really need to step into place. I am typically the guard in charge, and out of say 5 people, if there is one attacker, I would have 3 guards with my client, the other 2 would engage the threat if visibly seen, and our goal is not to chase the threat and take them down, our goal is to protect our client. I have been in situations where we rush our client into either a pre-decided safe spot or into their vehicle, and we get to safety. We don’t engage into the threat unless we really need to (If they are right in front of us, or coming after us that’s when we engage)
If I have to, I would take my life for my client. It’s part of my job, and all guards are expected to. I hope I never have to be in that situation, but I need to be prepared. When I’m with a client I always need to be ready. Wether it’s protecting them, engaging in hand to hand combat, or even using my firearm I need to be ready. I am trained in self protection and protection of others, and pursuit driving. The vehicle I drive for work is typically a Chevrolet suburban or a Range Rover. Both are armored and have reinforced body panels and glass, which makes them much heavier. I drive a Ford Expedition and Cadillac Escalade, as well as my wife Lincoln Navigator for work. All of these vehicles are extremely similar to a suburban, but since the suburban is reinforced, it weighs and handles a lot differently. Acceleration is much slower, and braking power is reduced. I need to be able to safely and effectively drive my clients around to wherever they wish to go, and if I’m in the situation where I need to drive aggressively to keep my clients safe, I need to know how to do that. The company I work for does not go easy on training. It’s constant, and random, so we don’t always know when or what we are doing for it. It keeps us on our game, and if we can do maneuvers while under high amounts of pressure, we can do it when we aren’t under much pressure.
So when I protect clients I do sometimes have to take risks and measures that typically wouldn’t be taken, but it’s part of the job, and it keeps my clients safe.
18points
#7
I cannot answer this question with the details that you would like because it would expose who I was protecting and I would not do that. However, I can give you some examples of “overly enthusiastic fans” getting too close and having to step in between (actually I would move them along and away from the client or even their entourage) the “fan” and the protectee. Normally that action is enough to end that particular situation but what scared us was that we never knew if it was just a “fan” or a feint to draw our attention and also to identify us as part of the protection detail.
Being a pretty good size guy myself (6 feet +) I was always concerned about someone my size or larger who did not get the immediate message of my blocking them away from the protectee. It happened a couple of times over the years where a big guy simply tried to push back against me and over power my measured force (just slightly more than they were exerting) so I quickly elevated the energy and analyzed VERY QUICKLY take whatever action is needed to do my job. In both cases with the big guys, I placed a strategic strike into them somewhere that stopped them in their tracks and allowed me to resume my position. In both cases they were on the ground and I was still moving and working. The job did not allow me the luxury of exchanging slaps or punches, or fighting it out in the crowd when I was sometimes the only protector or one of two.
I also worked with some celebrities, real and imagined, who were difficult because they did not sign , did not touch or want to be touched by the fans, and did not like or was reluctant to engage with the throngs of their fans. That was fine but it upset some of their fan base and would often raise the level of aggressiveness of some. Young fans would go aggressive very quickly if they perceived they were being ignored by the celeb. I worked with a physically small young girl who was in the music profession many years ago and she was literally afraid of the fans that she had. It was because she was so petite. Next to me she looked like a “pixie” (her description). Gradually she was able to get her mind around the fact that they were not a general threat and that my team was there to keep her safe from the exceptions rather than the normal fans.
Extreme measures are sometimes called for but it is NOT the usual situation. Even young fans are not that bad but they can change moods, as a group, much more quickly then older (more mature) fans. The level of force was ALWAYS commensurate with the force being exhibited by the aggressor up to a point and then we simply took charge of the situation and moved on. I never had a problem, and neither did any clients, after the fact with the actions that we took in the heat of the moment. Most of them did not even see anything happen and THAT is what they all wanted. Safety and no awareness of real or imagined threats.
Being a pretty good size guy myself (6 feet +) I was always concerned about someone my size or larger who did not get the immediate message of my blocking them away from the protectee. It happened a couple of times over the years where a big guy simply tried to push back against me and over power my measured force (just slightly more than they were exerting) so I quickly elevated the energy and analyzed VERY QUICKLY take whatever action is needed to do my job. In both cases with the big guys, I placed a strategic strike into them somewhere that stopped them in their tracks and allowed me to resume my position. In both cases they were on the ground and I was still moving and working. The job did not allow me the luxury of exchanging slaps or punches, or fighting it out in the crowd when I was sometimes the only protector or one of two.
I also worked with some celebrities, real and imagined, who were difficult because they did not sign , did not touch or want to be touched by the fans, and did not like or was reluctant to engage with the throngs of their fans. That was fine but it upset some of their fan base and would often raise the level of aggressiveness of some. Young fans would go aggressive very quickly if they perceived they were being ignored by the celeb. I worked with a physically small young girl who was in the music profession many years ago and she was literally afraid of the fans that she had. It was because she was so petite. Next to me she looked like a “pixie” (her description). Gradually she was able to get her mind around the fact that they were not a general threat and that my team was there to keep her safe from the exceptions rather than the normal fans.
Extreme measures are sometimes called for but it is NOT the usual situation. Even young fans are not that bad but they can change moods, as a group, much more quickly then older (more mature) fans. The level of force was ALWAYS commensurate with the force being exhibited by the aggressor up to a point and then we simply took charge of the situation and moved on. I never had a problem, and neither did any clients, after the fact with the actions that we took in the heat of the moment. Most of them did not even see anything happen and THAT is what they all wanted. Safety and no awareness of real or imagined threats.
15points
#8
Billionaires are usually pretty smart people (which is why they are billionaires). They may have loads of money, but only one life. So they give respect and attention to the people they’re paying to protect them.
The days can be long and sometimes a bit boring, but you also get the opportunity to experience some events (private yachts/jets, fancy cars, restaurants, travel, high priced sporting events) that you likely would never have experienced otherwise.
I remember one particular client who treated his office staff like school children. He would yell at them one minute, then in the same breath, turn and speak to me like he’s supposed to.
During my initial interview with a client to get all personal information (blood type, illnesses, medications etc.) required for the job, I’ll also take the opportunity to set the ground rules for my team. We’re being paid to protect. And in order to do that effectively, we require that our hands to be free at all times. Therefore, we don’t carry shopping bags, walk the dog etc., etc.
The days can be long and sometimes a bit boring, but you also get the opportunity to experience some events (private yachts/jets, fancy cars, restaurants, travel, high priced sporting events) that you likely would never have experienced otherwise.
I remember one particular client who treated his office staff like school children. He would yell at them one minute, then in the same breath, turn and speak to me like he’s supposed to.
During my initial interview with a client to get all personal information (blood type, illnesses, medications etc.) required for the job, I’ll also take the opportunity to set the ground rules for my team. We’re being paid to protect. And in order to do that effectively, we require that our hands to be free at all times. Therefore, we don’t carry shopping bags, walk the dog etc., etc.
14points
#9
Not a bodyguard, but a bodyguard story. I was working as a server at a high-end mountain resort in Wyoming. The VPOTUS and his wife came in to have dinner and I was assigned as his waiter. The Secret Service had to interview me to make sure I wasn't an idiot or a terrorist or something then went about their way.
For 6 hours leading up to dinner, there were two agents sitting in the restaurant "eating" just scoping the place out. There were another two agents in the lobby "reading the paper" for the same 6 hours.. kinda odd
Once dinner time came and orders were placed, two more agents came into the kitchen and watched every move that the cooks made with the VP's food.. keep in mind that these guys were armed with MP5's.. They kept asking "Is this his food? How bout this? Once the food was made, it was all eyes on me carrying it out to the table. Pretty odd experience. When I mentioned that I would be bringing out his wife's food too, they said, "oh, we don't care". Ha.
This also happened to be the same week that said VPOTUS had shot a guy in the face while quail hunting or something, so I think tensions were high.
For 6 hours leading up to dinner, there were two agents sitting in the restaurant "eating" just scoping the place out. There were another two agents in the lobby "reading the paper" for the same 6 hours.. kinda odd
Once dinner time came and orders were placed, two more agents came into the kitchen and watched every move that the cooks made with the VP's food.. keep in mind that these guys were armed with MP5's.. They kept asking "Is this his food? How bout this? Once the food was made, it was all eyes on me carrying it out to the table. Pretty odd experience. When I mentioned that I would be bringing out his wife's food too, they said, "oh, we don't care". Ha.
This also happened to be the same week that said VPOTUS had shot a guy in the face while quail hunting or something, so I think tensions were high.
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14points
#10
It goes from 0-100 very fast. On the whole it is a very rewarding job that has lots of various facets. It requires the bar to be set very high because you're ultimately responsible for not only someone else's safety, but more importantly, their well being. That means they count on you…almost blindly. If you're not up to par, you are in the wrong field. You're training and performing your duties with a team that is connected, and rely on each other's abilities, so your previous experience and your abilities are all relevant to the scope of responsibility and that can be pivotal. It can vary in nature depending on your clients. Sometimes, you're not even protecting a "person" but instead an object. This is common amongst jewelers or entrepreneurs, patent filers or business people. Sometimes you're there to provide ambient security, room sweeps pat downs or also known as corporate espionage protection.
Not every job is a red carpet, star studded evening at a premiere. There are many forms of EP work, teams that work undercover, teams that run preliminary recon or route planning.
In addition to your own level of professionalism that you have to deliver, you'll need to continuously improve your training. Weapons knowledge, unarmed defense and observation training are usually on the ticket for every EP'er working for a serious company.
You don't have much of a personal life. You need to sometimes move at a moments notice, with or without your "heart." (client)
For many of us, there are often things that no longer remain a part of your life, like you used to know. You have to rethink your friends, associates, and company.
Drinking too much, aggressive behavior or negative reactions are career-enders & therefore avoided at all costs. You are often incapable of knowing where you'll be in 2 months, who you'll be with or what you'll be doing. There is a lot of focus on blending in to your surroundings, sometimes you're even given business cards bearing the title of "personal assistant" as to avoid rousing suspicion.
Anticipating danger and thereby being able to avoid or prevent it, is the top priority, so you'll need be familiar with every aspect of your clients lifestyle. That means learning, observing and monitoring their movements and actions. You HAVE to be disciplined and focused.
It is very rewarding, and very demanding. It is a pleasure and a burden and it is something that if done to perfection, nobody will ever know you where there or who you were. :)
Not every job is a red carpet, star studded evening at a premiere. There are many forms of EP work, teams that work undercover, teams that run preliminary recon or route planning.
In addition to your own level of professionalism that you have to deliver, you'll need to continuously improve your training. Weapons knowledge, unarmed defense and observation training are usually on the ticket for every EP'er working for a serious company.
You don't have much of a personal life. You need to sometimes move at a moments notice, with or without your "heart." (client)
For many of us, there are often things that no longer remain a part of your life, like you used to know. You have to rethink your friends, associates, and company.
Drinking too much, aggressive behavior or negative reactions are career-enders & therefore avoided at all costs. You are often incapable of knowing where you'll be in 2 months, who you'll be with or what you'll be doing. There is a lot of focus on blending in to your surroundings, sometimes you're even given business cards bearing the title of "personal assistant" as to avoid rousing suspicion.
Anticipating danger and thereby being able to avoid or prevent it, is the top priority, so you'll need be familiar with every aspect of your clients lifestyle. That means learning, observing and monitoring their movements and actions. You HAVE to be disciplined and focused.
It is very rewarding, and very demanding. It is a pleasure and a burden and it is something that if done to perfection, nobody will ever know you where there or who you were. :)
12points
#11
When I was a Presidential Advisor, I'll never forget my first trip to the United Nations. As I walked from the limo I was surrounded by four of the biggest men I've ever seen. The truth is that they are window dressing. The fact is that there are a number of bodyguards that you never see. They're in background.
Today's professional security specialist, for those that employ them, have raised security to a science. The role of electronic services is huge today. Even risk levels can be calculated in real time.
Today's professional security specialist, for those that employ them, have raised security to a science. The role of electronic services is huge today. Even risk levels can be calculated in real time.
12points
#12
I have had bodyguards most of my teenage years as my father was a senior minister of government which required the family to have a security detail.
At first i thought it was fun and "cool" but as the years rolled on it was more cumbersome than anything else. I liked to get into a bit of mischief here an there but the moment i tried something they would stop and/or immediately inform my parents. Everything i literally did was logged and reported back. We also lost all our privacy at home as having a details at home all the time took that away.
I remember one time on the way back from school i wanted to stop and get some food from mcdonald's but since that wasn't on plan i was not allowed (this was quite common). Every time i tried to sneak out to go meet my girlfriend i would be stopped.
There were times when the threats were all too real and at those moments we were all glad they were around no matter how much we had to sacrifice our privacy.
At first i thought it was fun and "cool" but as the years rolled on it was more cumbersome than anything else. I liked to get into a bit of mischief here an there but the moment i tried something they would stop and/or immediately inform my parents. Everything i literally did was logged and reported back. We also lost all our privacy at home as having a details at home all the time took that away.
I remember one time on the way back from school i wanted to stop and get some food from mcdonald's but since that wasn't on plan i was not allowed (this was quite common). Every time i tried to sneak out to go meet my girlfriend i would be stopped.
There were times when the threats were all too real and at those moments we were all glad they were around no matter how much we had to sacrifice our privacy.
12points
#13
Think of it as glorified babysitting a lot of the time :)
11points
#14
Define “celebrities”.
There are a number of private security agencies which hire out “bodyguards” of all levels of training and competence. The celebrity, their management, or occasionally a production company or a studio can approach these businesses and hire them to provide security. This is a mixed bag as again the training levels and competence of the people who are employed cover a wide range and you often have no idea who its is that you’ll be receiving.
Here’s the thing, questioner: Real life isn’t like the 1992 Kevin Costner/Whitney Houston film.
Most bodyguards escort stars for brief periods of time until either the threat (real or imagined) dissipates or until their services become unaffordable. Very few wealthy people have full time security as the majority don’t need it; or it’s so cost-prohibitive that after a few weeks or months they can no longer afford it. If you are seeking to get into the career field expect to “bounce around” a lot and even to potentially not be paid for some assignments.
Finally, most of those roles are reported to be rather dull. The bodyguard escorts the celebrity to routine appointments, they take their children (if any) to school, and they take their single clients to nightclubs and bars. They mostly sit around or stand around for hours on end with nothing happening. if something DOES happen, their primary job is to get the celebrity away from the scene, not to fight assailants, nor engage in shootouts. The money that can be earned is the main attraction for most people.
Sooo…if you are former military or law enforcement, especially skilled tactical response situations or have received specific training in security, then you can apply with those businesses and after a background check (or two) they might hire. I would expect that the roles are contract, so you may find yourself with lengthy periods of unemployment until a new contract comes along.
There are a number of private security agencies which hire out “bodyguards” of all levels of training and competence. The celebrity, their management, or occasionally a production company or a studio can approach these businesses and hire them to provide security. This is a mixed bag as again the training levels and competence of the people who are employed cover a wide range and you often have no idea who its is that you’ll be receiving.
Here’s the thing, questioner: Real life isn’t like the 1992 Kevin Costner/Whitney Houston film.
Most bodyguards escort stars for brief periods of time until either the threat (real or imagined) dissipates or until their services become unaffordable. Very few wealthy people have full time security as the majority don’t need it; or it’s so cost-prohibitive that after a few weeks or months they can no longer afford it. If you are seeking to get into the career field expect to “bounce around” a lot and even to potentially not be paid for some assignments.
Finally, most of those roles are reported to be rather dull. The bodyguard escorts the celebrity to routine appointments, they take their children (if any) to school, and they take their single clients to nightclubs and bars. They mostly sit around or stand around for hours on end with nothing happening. if something DOES happen, their primary job is to get the celebrity away from the scene, not to fight assailants, nor engage in shootouts. The money that can be earned is the main attraction for most people.
Sooo…if you are former military or law enforcement, especially skilled tactical response situations or have received specific training in security, then you can apply with those businesses and after a background check (or two) they might hire. I would expect that the roles are contract, so you may find yourself with lengthy periods of unemployment until a new contract comes along.
11points
#15
Even with the internet shield, going to abide by confidentiality agreements.
But I will say that often time the most challenging people to deal with are not the maniacs/beggars/rabid fans, but the people surrounding the primary client. Property managers who despise you or belittle you, pet sitters with up jumped sense of self, I could go on.
Thankfully work at an estate that has none of that these days! Much easier to keep everyone safe and alive when you work well with them.
But I will say that often time the most challenging people to deal with are not the maniacs/beggars/rabid fans, but the people surrounding the primary client. Property managers who despise you or belittle you, pet sitters with up jumped sense of self, I could go on.
Thankfully work at an estate that has none of that these days! Much easier to keep everyone safe and alive when you work well with them.
11points
#16
I have worked for some of the top musicians in the USA and one from England. As a “professional “, I will not reveal their names, but I guarantee you have heard of all of them. Aside from being paid very well ( as you should be because you are risking your life) sometimes there are some good and bad benefits. The bad, working with the clients “staff”. They think they are your boss and will often try to boss you around and tell you what to do. They then get very angry when you tell them you do not work for them! Some times the client will want to do something not advisable to their safety. Like mingle with Fans. Some get drunk and/or high and do stupid things, and when you advise them not to they get very angry and say “ you work for me!” As for benefits, you meet a lot of famous people. But you never ask for an autograph. (that is one of the fastest ways to get fired). Sometimes if you are just working a shift, when it ends you may get invited to stay for the party. One very well known Musician invited me in to his dressing room and shared shots of Jaegermeister and beer with me. Another time the musician from England ( I will not say his name, “but every picture tells a story”) made me guard his car while he went off and got major f**ked up and came back and vomited all over.
The majority of celebs are very nice because they realize the position you are in….that you are looking out for their safety and may have to put your life on the line. But the pay and the benefits outweigh the bad.
The majority of celebs are very nice because they realize the position you are in….that you are looking out for their safety and may have to put your life on the line. But the pay and the benefits outweigh the bad.
10points
#17
Fair enough questions so I'll answer it as best as I can from personal experiences
1. celebrities and actors: I will not provide any kind of consultation or any kind of investigative work nor will provide any kind of personal protection for these kinds of principals: Reasons are as follows! A) These kinds of principals/protectees have the tendency to think that because they have lots of money and influence in their industry that everybody that works for them should kiss their a*s for a paycheck and should be nothing more than a door mat! This is particularly dangerous because if you are protecting a principal like this and they refuse to see thru to their own destructive behavior then trying to protect them and keep them out of harms way would be like a sheep dog trying to keep a sheep acting like a sheep dog away from the wolves which tend to travel in packs! Eventually that person gets hurt and blames the guy they hired despite all the warnings they got ahead of time! B) They are smart to know that if they have to have me there that they are gonna need more than just one guy to assist in their protection detail! Besides that I'm short on things as it is and to take an assignment like that would place an burden on me which they don't care about! C) The job of providing protection to a celebrity both at home and in the road and spotlight is exhausting both mentally and physically and takes away from your life and your family and I just don't commit myself to that!
2. Powerful People…..I would have to ask on what you mean by powerful people? I've done some uniformed executive protection assignments for high profile executives for Fortune 31 and for Fortune 500 companies and their employees. I've also done some plain clothes assignments protecting high profile clergy members and also protected battered women and children as well. These people in my opinion tend to appreciate the two way communication between us and them and love the work that we provide for them. If I really had to stick with something specific then I would stick to protecting churches and clergy members and stick to protecting women and children who are battered or terrified going thru some nasty event in their life. I also spent the last 4 1/2 hours in Healthcare facilities and that's a challenge too but stuck with that. I don't know but that's my take on things
hope this helps and answers your question
1. celebrities and actors: I will not provide any kind of consultation or any kind of investigative work nor will provide any kind of personal protection for these kinds of principals: Reasons are as follows! A) These kinds of principals/protectees have the tendency to think that because they have lots of money and influence in their industry that everybody that works for them should kiss their a*s for a paycheck and should be nothing more than a door mat! This is particularly dangerous because if you are protecting a principal like this and they refuse to see thru to their own destructive behavior then trying to protect them and keep them out of harms way would be like a sheep dog trying to keep a sheep acting like a sheep dog away from the wolves which tend to travel in packs! Eventually that person gets hurt and blames the guy they hired despite all the warnings they got ahead of time! B) They are smart to know that if they have to have me there that they are gonna need more than just one guy to assist in their protection detail! Besides that I'm short on things as it is and to take an assignment like that would place an burden on me which they don't care about! C) The job of providing protection to a celebrity both at home and in the road and spotlight is exhausting both mentally and physically and takes away from your life and your family and I just don't commit myself to that!
2. Powerful People…..I would have to ask on what you mean by powerful people? I've done some uniformed executive protection assignments for high profile executives for Fortune 31 and for Fortune 500 companies and their employees. I've also done some plain clothes assignments protecting high profile clergy members and also protected battered women and children as well. These people in my opinion tend to appreciate the two way communication between us and them and love the work that we provide for them. If I really had to stick with something specific then I would stick to protecting churches and clergy members and stick to protecting women and children who are battered or terrified going thru some nasty event in their life. I also spent the last 4 1/2 hours in Healthcare facilities and that's a challenge too but stuck with that. I don't know but that's my take on things
hope this helps and answers your question
9points
#18
An interesting factoid that came up when the White House lawn was invaded (which is an easy fence-hop), and a runner made it into the White House.
The outside guards, and the 'inside' guard were a completely separate entity. The outside guards had never actually been in the White House, so they were clueless as to how to even describe just where the intruder they tracked had entered (other than: the 'front right... Ahhh). And the inside guards, with the President not present, were 'on break' apparently, and not even reachable by phone. Rules were such that the 'outside' guards maintained the perimeter, didn't follow the intruder in. Impressive (not).
The outside guards, and the 'inside' guard were a completely separate entity. The outside guards had never actually been in the White House, so they were clueless as to how to even describe just where the intruder they tracked had entered (other than: the 'front right... Ahhh). And the inside guards, with the President not present, were 'on break' apparently, and not even reachable by phone. Rules were such that the 'outside' guards maintained the perimeter, didn't follow the intruder in. Impressive (not).
9points
#19
Not a bodyguard, but I've worked in the Hamptons for years.
I was working a charity gig for THIS GUY
at one of his mansions and was greeted by a member of his security team wearing a HUGE piece of iron on his hip. The guy later apologized for being so brash with me, and we got to chatting.
"So that piece - is that regulation for all you guys to carry?"
"This?! Naw usually they have us carry a glock 19 because it's less bulky in public. Since we're on home turf I like to carry the deagle."
"You're packing a desert eagle under there?"
"Yeah, wanna hold it?"
He unloads the clip, clears the action, hands it to me and grins when he sees that a kid like me is in disbelief at how big/heavy it is. We laugh and do a shot of tequila, apparently his job is pretty cushy and the guy he works for is pretty laid back, but since he's worth so much he knows he has to have a security detail. Most duties include ending bar-fights, communicating security to hotels, and driving an escalade that has some...uhh...defensive upgrades installed. Cool guys - i'd pour drinks for them any day.
I was working a charity gig for THIS GUY
at one of his mansions and was greeted by a member of his security team wearing a HUGE piece of iron on his hip. The guy later apologized for being so brash with me, and we got to chatting.
"So that piece - is that regulation for all you guys to carry?"
"This?! Naw usually they have us carry a glock 19 because it's less bulky in public. Since we're on home turf I like to carry the deagle."
"You're packing a desert eagle under there?"
"Yeah, wanna hold it?"
He unloads the clip, clears the action, hands it to me and grins when he sees that a kid like me is in disbelief at how big/heavy it is. We laugh and do a shot of tequila, apparently his job is pretty cushy and the guy he works for is pretty laid back, but since he's worth so much he knows he has to have a security detail. Most duties include ending bar-fights, communicating security to hotels, and driving an escalade that has some...uhh...defensive upgrades installed. Cool guys - i'd pour drinks for them any day.
9points
#20
This is not my field, but I have a number of friends that work in this sector.
Mostly it is just boring. Yes, you get to go to a lot of exotic destinations, and stare at a hotel room door or a CCTV monitor. A lot of it is sort of combination between being a babysitter and concierge.
Yes you might travel by private jet, but a transcontinental flight is still boring and you need to hit the ground ready to work. There is a lot of planning and advance work that has to be done depending upon the principal (if a fire alarm gets pulled what are we going to do?)
The principals attitude is also highly variable. I have heard of guys getting fired for wearing too much aftershave or saying hello. Some principals don't want a detail but are required to have one so everything the detail does is a hassle, from the principals perspective. I am sure that most principals are pretty reasonable, but the horror stories are what comes out over beer.
Depending upon the detail when you are home you are likely preparing for the next trip or (hopefully) doing inservice training. A lot really depends upon the principal and the security company.
Mostly it is just boring. Yes, you get to go to a lot of exotic destinations, and stare at a hotel room door or a CCTV monitor. A lot of it is sort of combination between being a babysitter and concierge.
Yes you might travel by private jet, but a transcontinental flight is still boring and you need to hit the ground ready to work. There is a lot of planning and advance work that has to be done depending upon the principal (if a fire alarm gets pulled what are we going to do?)
The principals attitude is also highly variable. I have heard of guys getting fired for wearing too much aftershave or saying hello. Some principals don't want a detail but are required to have one so everything the detail does is a hassle, from the principals perspective. I am sure that most principals are pretty reasonable, but the horror stories are what comes out over beer.
Depending upon the detail when you are home you are likely preparing for the next trip or (hopefully) doing inservice training. A lot really depends upon the principal and the security company.
8points