#1

Are zoos good or bad for animals? It’s a question many have pondered while deciding whether or not to pay a visit to one. And the answer, it seems, isn't as clear cut as some may think. Experts say zoos can be both good and bad.
It’s important to remember that not all zoos are created equal, notes Björn Jóhann Ólafsson, a science writer and journalist for Sentient Media. “While it is easy to imagine animal ethics as a binary of evil and moral, zoos can vary widely on how they treat their animals, how much space they are given and how the animals are obtained,” explains the expert.
#2

The American Humane Society (AMS) argues that zoos, wildlife parks, and aquariums play a critical role in connecting people to the natural world, and help to raise awareness of some of the species that are vanishing.
“Simply put: if people don’t care enough about something, then that something will cease to exist,” the AMS site reads. It adds that most people can’t afford to book a safari to the plains of Africa, the jungles of South America, or the tropical forests of Asia.
"However, they can and do visit their local zoos, wildlife parks, and aquariums because it is the best and most economical way to see rare and endangered species from around the world.”
#3

According to the Association of Zoos and Aquariums, more than 181 million people visit US zoos and aquariums each year. And AMS has praised zoos for doing a “tremendous job” of preserving many vulnerable species.
However, it’s important to note that AMS is specifically referring to Humane Certified™ zoological facilities. In other words, zoos that prioritize the welfare of animals. AMS explains that unlike self-reported standards or internal reviews, third-party certification means an outside organization has "audited the facility against rigorous, science-based criteria and verified that animals are being treated humanely."
More then 85 zoological facilities across 19 countries have been certified, directly protecting the welfare of nearly 1.1 million animals.
#4

The keepers there say they're like the velociraptors from Jurassic Park. They have to go in in groups of 3+. One to actually do the job and 2 more to keep eyes on the birds. Two isn't enough because they'd split up and cause a distraction while the other attacked.
Clever girls.
#5

Most animals don’t belong in zoos, but hyaenas REALLY don’t belong in zoos. I did enjoy working with them though. Rarely a dull moment!
This is where things get murky… Not all zoos prioritize the welfare of animals. In fact, there are many that don’t.
A report from World Animal Protection reveals that three quarters of zoos include human-animal interactions. This can cause major stress for animals and even physically hurt them. “In some extreme cases, visitors rode on the backs of animals (causing injury) or encroached on the animals’ enclosure (causing stress),” says Ólafsson.
The expert goes on to argue that zoos are for people, and not for animals. “Most zoos are for-profit enterprises, meaning they have one goal in mind: maximizing revenue,” he explains. ”It is easy to see how making more money can come at the expense of animal welfare.”
#6

To balance out with a little positivity, I love my gorillas, such an absolute joy to take care of. They are like a bunch of 5 years old that weigh 400lbs but they have so much personality. Even when they aren't listening I love em.
I also love our chimps, I absolutely understand why people don't want to work with them, they are loud, will feign injuries to get you close to [mess] with you. Spit water at you, throw [feces] but they are amazing animals and are so creative and have more personality then almost any other animal I've met. They are all so unique in a way that's hard to explain.
Literally smaller monkey species are a nightmare though, so fast and cunning, if they don't have great training it can be impossible to get them cooperate with the exception of species like the Pygmy Marmosets and Saki Monkeys. They are just all vibes.
Shout out to lemurs though, they just wanna eat and sunbathe. Love those guys.
Ólafsson says while it’s true that many zookeepers form real bonds with their animal companions, the animals still exist under a for-profit, human-centered organization. He also reveals that some animals in zoos are born in captivity, but others are captured and brought in.
“Many animals are taken directly from the wild, often when they are babies, to make the transition to captivity a bit easier,” the expert writes. “At times, this is done in the name of conservation, or when a wild animal is very ill. But many zoos will take animals from the wild, or buy animals from unethical animal traders.”
#7

SweetperterderFries:
Was once told by a zookeeper, 'if a zebra likes you, they'll bite you. If they don't like you, they'll bite you harder.'
#8

Ólafsson also takes issue with the size of enclosures at many zoos, saying they are far too small, especially for animal species that are used to roaming, flying or swimming large distances in the wild.
For example, he explains, “polar bears are used to home ranges of about 1,000 square kilometers in the wild — large swaths of land and ice they enjoy exploring. In zoos, they get a couple hundred square feet.”
#9

Koalas are surprisingly annoying. The males are loud, super stinky and the smell stays on you for ages.
They're super finicky, stupid and particular, they literally will starve if you just hand them them the only leaves they eat (eucalyptus)
The branches need to be lashed to the pole they climb on so they recognise it as food otherwise they will literally starve.Their [feces are] super rancid too.
Also you can literally catch chlamydia from them.
Their claws friggin hurt. And they will just climb on you like you're a tree.
But they are soft. And they will nap on you. Which is cute for like two minutes but man they are heavy.
Also not very surprising but special mention for the saltwater crocodile, Goliath. He was about 5 meters long. Specialised tank. Needed 5 keepers to clean his tank/ enclosure Three to manoeuvre him (with poles, you hold them near him and he will lash out and snap at them, and will follow the poles) to one side of the enclosure. Then they have to keep him there and get out, one at a time (without being bitten in half or losing an arm) and they put the (surprisingly flimsy) fence up between the sections. And two keepers clean the tank/enclosure as fast as humanly possibly while one keeper keeps the literal dinosaur from mauling them. Then they get out asap, remove the fence, and go change their pants (lol).
They only ever cleaned one side at a time. And was about every two weeks.
The lead keeper was missing a few fingers.
On the plus side, I got to keep some of his teeth (they lose them constantly, and they collect them when they clean)
Unlikely favourite was a red tailed cockatoo, super sweet, loved to sit on your shoulder and play with ears (loved earrings) and was surprisingly gentle and affectionate.
The American Humane Society agrees that animals in quality facilities should have space to move, explore, rest and socialize with members of their own species.
“Enclosures should reflect an animal’s natural habitat as closely as possible, with access to shade, shelter, clean water and varied terrain,” it adds, noting that the animals must be able to carry out their natural behaviors like foraging, climbing, swimming or problem-solving.
#10

I had to feed them after school every day. 7-foot tall demon birds still haunt my dreams.
Gizmo-516:
I worked at a little zoo for one summer in college. We had lions, tigers, leopards, tamarins, spider monkeys, zebra, elk, lynx, bobcats, camels and ostrich. The ostrich was the single most terrifying creature I've ever encountered. We had to clean the pen daily and he would try to attack us. The last time we hid behind a tree and barely escaped. We told the boss who told us to stop being such girls about it and promptly went into the pen himself. Where he got kicked by the demon bird and his leg was broken. He never made us clean the pen again, though.
#11

I love them but + for me.
Pair the ultra-fast matabolism of a creature that eats 25% of its body mass in raw fish every day with superpowered ferret-like scent glands, and you get an animal that's real efficient at turning fish into goopy piles of fish [goo] and spreading it everywhere to help mark territory.
#12

Corvids are awesome. But also they present risks that common pet birds don't - specifically a little nip from a parakeet or even a big parrot could hurt or break the skin. Because of their diet, even a friendly but overly-excited nip from a crow is an immediate concern for infection because of their higher protein diet that includes mammal meat, and beaks that are less than self-cleaning.
Lots of folks dream of having a crow or raven friend, and that is honestly possible to have a rewarding relationship, but beyond a long-lived perpetual toddler that can fly and bite, you've got a real risk of needing medical treatment for simple scratches from playtime.
All of these points are valid reasons not to visit certain zoos. And to only support those that are certified or proven to put animal welfare first.
“Facilities committed to humane treatment welcome questions. Staff should be willing to explain veterinary protocols, dietary programs, enrichment schedules and how they measure animal well-being," says the AMS team.
"Public reporting on animal births, transfers, medical care and mortality is another strong signal," they reveal. "Facilities that restrict access to this information or discourage visitor inquiry warrant closer scrutiny."
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#14

Granted this was one zookeeper, but i could tell she was serious.
#15
"OMG YOU SNEEZED I'M GOING TO TAIL WHIP YOU ALL THE WAY TO HELL!" but also, "Ooh, hey, a strawberry!" (YEETS self onto your chest like a spring-loaded cinder block)
Miss ya', Slimer.
Whether or not you choose to visit a zoo is entirely up to you but we would urge that you take ethics and animal welfare into account when choosing which facilities to support.
For Kate, the founder of Green Eco-Friend, it only makes sense for zoos that rehabilitate wildlife and protect endangered species to exist. However. the eco-warrior believes that it would be far better "if they were to become wildlife sanctuaries and they stopped buying and selling animals."
#16

They say it's like they have no self preservation instincts.
Lopsided_Hat_835:
Pandas. One of my best friends is a zoo keeper the zoo he worked at had 2 Pandas on loan from china for 2 years his main job became looking after them, I told him I was so jealous I thought he had the best job in the world. He told me sure they were cute but you get over that once you realize what a nightmare they are to look after because of how stupid they are. It almost drove him insane over the course of two years. He was so happy when they left and this guy loves most animals but not Pandas!
#17

Kate believes that there are many zoos that should be shut down immediately. "As far as I’m concerned the majority of ‘good zoos’ still need to make massive improvements to their facilities," she says, adding that a zoo's major function should not be to make money for its owner. "The profits from ticket prices should go toward increasing animal welfare standards and increasing enclosure sizes," she writes.
"What we should be doing is protecting the habitats of wild animals and ensuring their survival in the wild," argues the Green Eco-Friend site. "Until people around the world care more about life than money I’m afraid there’s little chance of certain species surviving without a helping hand from zoos."
#18
I don’t know if it’s the uncanny factor where most of them looked like dogs with odd proportions, or the fact that they had the same kind of predatory intelligence as the lions but with more obvious malice, or just the simple fact that they varied from eerily calm to snarling and howling when they were judging you. It was always unnervingly obvious that no matter what they looked like these were not dogs. Most of them came from less than suitable homes before the rescue and they did not trust or accept new people easily. They DID require a double fenced and super secure enclosure, though, after one of the roaming dogs on the property (it was out in the boonies, dogs got dumped and ended up living at the rescue all the time) was brutally mauled through the fence.
Wolf dogs are not dogs. Wolf dogs are not pets. Wolf dogs are genetic time [explosives] with internal conflicting instincts that make them unbelievably dangerous. And before anyone tries to come back with some nonsense anecdote about their friends uncles wolf dogs who was the best dog they ever had; either it wasn’t a wolf dog (statistics on the genetic testing of wolf hybrids in homes shows that these are typically some kind of shepherd or husky mix mislabeled and sold at a wild premium), that person got unspeakably lucky, or the whole story is made up. Wolf dogs do not belong in people’s homes.
#19

alphaboydl:
Kangaroo. People think cute but they’re basically muscular, moody toodlers with knives on their feet. And they will try to fight you during feeding time
Dr. James Borrell, a biodiversity scientist, conservationist and science communicator has mixed feelings about zoos. He says while he's "very happy to advocate good zoos, and only good zoos from a conservation perspective," that doesn't mean there isn't room for improvement.
In a blog post titled, The 5 Strongest Arguments Against Zoos, Borrell responds to the cons of zoos, some of which he agrees with. Like Kate, the expert admits that he'd like to see more spent on overseas conservation of the species zoos exhibit.
"At the same time, I’d like to see a much clearer link between the two," he says. "Visiting a zoo should support conservation not just in captivity, but in the wild – and it should be crystal clear. That’s the aspiration."
#20

Also there was a hornbill in the giraffe yard. It was actually the worst animal I’ve ever met. Pure, total evil. Would follow me around and sneak up on me and peck at my [bottom] (have you seen those beaks) as I was cleaning. So okay, I’ll walk sideways or backwards right? To keep an eye on him? He’d stay a bit further back but if you look away for a SECOND, now you have a baseball sized bruise on your thigh.


