Some grow up with their siblings side by side as best friends, while others spend their childhood walking on eggshells. And there are no guarantees that things will get better with time, either. To explore how deep this sort of damage can run, let's take a look at a Reddit thread where people have been sharing what it's like to have an antisocial brother or sister who has crossed every possible line, and how their behaviors still echo in their families today.
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#21

I tell people I don’t have any siblings.
23points
#22

It's exhausting just thinking about it. I don't want to go into everything about my sister right now but I'll say this.
She use to have a "nickname" for me. It was "S***e" she thought it was so funny. Had people think it was just a joke. It was not. She treated me like a s***e and I was so deep in the FOG that I didn't know I could fight back. It was always easier to just do what she wanted because the abuse was to much to deal with. I suppressed my feelings to the point where I thought that smiling ment I was happy. I felt empty. I wasn't allowed to frown. Anything less than a smile ment that I was ruining everyone else's day. I was only allowed to smile. So my mom didn't notice I wasn't happy because I acted like I was. I tried to end myself at 16 and my sister turned it into a joke. She still laughs about it.
Happy ending to this is that I'm married and don't take her s**t anymore. I wont let anyone treat me like that again. I know what happiness feels like and I know what I'm worth. Still working through the FOG though.
She use to have a "nickname" for me. It was "S***e" she thought it was so funny. Had people think it was just a joke. It was not. She treated me like a s***e and I was so deep in the FOG that I didn't know I could fight back. It was always easier to just do what she wanted because the abuse was to much to deal with. I suppressed my feelings to the point where I thought that smiling ment I was happy. I felt empty. I wasn't allowed to frown. Anything less than a smile ment that I was ruining everyone else's day. I was only allowed to smile. So my mom didn't notice I wasn't happy because I acted like I was. I tried to end myself at 16 and my sister turned it into a joke. She still laughs about it.
Happy ending to this is that I'm married and don't take her s**t anymore. I wont let anyone treat me like that again. I know what happiness feels like and I know what I'm worth. Still working through the FOG though.
19points
#23

They're insane, and always mad about something petty. Somehow everything is related to their projected social image, regardless of context or content.
18points
#24

She called the cops and CPS, repeatedly accusing our step dad of child abuse. It usually lined up with her having rules and punishments. She didn't like that my parents did research on how to raise a psychopath that doesn't become a m******r, they suddenly knew all her tricks and tactics. I sometimes think about how sad it must be to be physically incapable of feeling human emotions, but it clearly would only hold her back.
Her diagnosis was "emerging antisocial personality disorder" because they said they couldn't diagnose someone under 25 as a psychopath. Dad acts really really similar so I assume whatever she has, he has that too.
to add some more now that I'm more awake: I lost almost all of my friends. My family,besides my immediate, totally ignore me because me and my mum "protected" my step dad by saying my sister was lying about the abuse. Just to be clear, we were investigated multiple times and cps said they were doing a phenomenal job raising so many kids with so many mental health issues so well. They put down that they were false claims the first 2 times and after that they were like "we just have to investigate to be sure, just do the interviews and get it done. We have to do it every time" which I do appreciate the diligence if a child is really being abused, but we had stuff from therapists and counsellors that were all like "has a history of lying" "tells lies to get what she wants" and my entire family still thinks were protecting a monster.
The real kicker is that our biological father is *also* a psychopath and *actually* a child a****r. Guess who she moved in with when my aunt's refused to let her go back to my mum's? If you guessed our actually a*****e dad, who was now basically giving her psychopath 101 courses just by being near each other, then you're right! All our family who banded together in a fickle justice brigade about child abuse are now BFFs with the guy who used to threaten to break my legs and choke me and hit me when I was 7 or younger. I'm sure it makes my mom feel great too, knowing that all her sisters took her abusers side after a lengthy divorce battle that he *kept coming back with more and more affidavits for* and just drained her emotionally and financially for years on end.
I could write a book about how much they've all hurt me, by being or enabling a psychopath. I'm pretty certain that at least some of my aunt's are narcissistic. Last week my grandma went on a tirade about me "not forgiving" but no one has ever apologized or even acklowdged that they did anything wrong. I won't rugsweep something that still hurts me regularly, and apparently that makes me that problem again.
Her diagnosis was "emerging antisocial personality disorder" because they said they couldn't diagnose someone under 25 as a psychopath. Dad acts really really similar so I assume whatever she has, he has that too.
to add some more now that I'm more awake: I lost almost all of my friends. My family,besides my immediate, totally ignore me because me and my mum "protected" my step dad by saying my sister was lying about the abuse. Just to be clear, we were investigated multiple times and cps said they were doing a phenomenal job raising so many kids with so many mental health issues so well. They put down that they were false claims the first 2 times and after that they were like "we just have to investigate to be sure, just do the interviews and get it done. We have to do it every time" which I do appreciate the diligence if a child is really being abused, but we had stuff from therapists and counsellors that were all like "has a history of lying" "tells lies to get what she wants" and my entire family still thinks were protecting a monster.
The real kicker is that our biological father is *also* a psychopath and *actually* a child a****r. Guess who she moved in with when my aunt's refused to let her go back to my mum's? If you guessed our actually a*****e dad, who was now basically giving her psychopath 101 courses just by being near each other, then you're right! All our family who banded together in a fickle justice brigade about child abuse are now BFFs with the guy who used to threaten to break my legs and choke me and hit me when I was 7 or younger. I'm sure it makes my mom feel great too, knowing that all her sisters took her abusers side after a lengthy divorce battle that he *kept coming back with more and more affidavits for* and just drained her emotionally and financially for years on end.
I could write a book about how much they've all hurt me, by being or enabling a psychopath. I'm pretty certain that at least some of my aunt's are narcissistic. Last week my grandma went on a tirade about me "not forgiving" but no one has ever apologized or even acklowdged that they did anything wrong. I won't rugsweep something that still hurts me regularly, and apparently that makes me that problem again.
18points
#25

I have a sibling who used information from subs like r/raisedbynarcissists and other "narcissistic mother" blogs and websites to isolate and convince myself and each of my other siblings that our parent was an a*****e narcissist. They were much older and were able to start on each sibling around the age of 17.
Eventually each sibling came to the realization of what they were doing and we cut them out, but we all suffered pretty seriously at their hands in a lot of ways. Also, this sibling had left a book at one of our places while storing stuff.
In the book at the top of each page was the name of a person in their life (family, friends, coworkers, landlord, neighbors, etc) and a list of the things they could be used for to benefit my sibling, the things they like and dislike, and methods to use and manipulate the person best.
I am terrified of this person, especially since they work in law enforcement, have access to firearms, and abuse all sorts of amphetamines and other d***s daily.
Eventually each sibling came to the realization of what they were doing and we cut them out, but we all suffered pretty seriously at their hands in a lot of ways. Also, this sibling had left a book at one of our places while storing stuff.
In the book at the top of each page was the name of a person in their life (family, friends, coworkers, landlord, neighbors, etc) and a list of the things they could be used for to benefit my sibling, the things they like and dislike, and methods to use and manipulate the person best.
I am terrified of this person, especially since they work in law enforcement, have access to firearms, and abuse all sorts of amphetamines and other d***s daily.
16points
#26

My sister first got in a knife fight when she was twelve years old. She laughed after the fact, especially given that it was her fault the fight happened and she caused the most damage, but the guys got house arrest and she got a drive home.
She started stealing at eight just to have something to do. When she got caught, she pinned it on her friends and got half of them in trouble with the law and their parents.
She only cares about things, not people. She's never at fault, only other people are. She abuses her boyfriend to all get out, but thinks that we're a*****e. She's currently pretending to live on a beach in another city so that Dad will feel bad and let her move in to our house (which has no room) with her boyfriend (who she has a COURT ORDER to stay away from) because "The government is wrong and we're fine."
She once stole my iPod while I was in the bathroom and denied it for ten years. Then she blamed me for ripping up her doll clothes? Which I did once?
She holds things over me from ten years ago, fifteen years ago, TWENTY YEARS AGO, but god help me if I am upset about something she did a week ago. She gaslights me constantly, and she used her narcissism to take out her eating disorder on me, giving me a really complex relationship with my body and my eating, but to this day she denies doing so.
And it gets so, so much worse. This is just the stuff I don't mind posting.
She started stealing at eight just to have something to do. When she got caught, she pinned it on her friends and got half of them in trouble with the law and their parents.
She only cares about things, not people. She's never at fault, only other people are. She abuses her boyfriend to all get out, but thinks that we're a*****e. She's currently pretending to live on a beach in another city so that Dad will feel bad and let her move in to our house (which has no room) with her boyfriend (who she has a COURT ORDER to stay away from) because "The government is wrong and we're fine."
She once stole my iPod while I was in the bathroom and denied it for ten years. Then she blamed me for ripping up her doll clothes? Which I did once?
She holds things over me from ten years ago, fifteen years ago, TWENTY YEARS AGO, but god help me if I am upset about something she did a week ago. She gaslights me constantly, and she used her narcissism to take out her eating disorder on me, giving me a really complex relationship with my body and my eating, but to this day she denies doing so.
And it gets so, so much worse. This is just the stuff I don't mind posting.
15points
#27

It's always difficult to share my problems with them because they also had that same problem at some stage of their life and it was much harder for them than that is for me apparently.
ACaffeinatedWandress:
My sister is like that. She once told me that "I apparently don't remember our childhood very well."
Bish, I remember the times you ran the gas tank to 0, typically got our brother to pay for it (the s**t she talked my freaking brother into. He was spoilt, so he didn't mind), and maneuvered a situation in which my a*****e father slammed me into a wall and screamed at me to fill the damn tank. I remembered a mother who was willing to have me kicked out of the house for s**t you started suddenly balk at punishing YOU when I showed her the proof ('Princess probably didn't mean to do it'. Yeah, that s**t totally can happen on accident, and it would have been SO out of character for you).
I won't say growing up as my father's kid was easy, but for that situation, she had it easy. I should have taken the sociopath route.
ACaffeinatedWandress:
My sister is like that. She once told me that "I apparently don't remember our childhood very well."
Bish, I remember the times you ran the gas tank to 0, typically got our brother to pay for it (the s**t she talked my freaking brother into. He was spoilt, so he didn't mind), and maneuvered a situation in which my a*****e father slammed me into a wall and screamed at me to fill the damn tank. I remembered a mother who was willing to have me kicked out of the house for s**t you started suddenly balk at punishing YOU when I showed her the proof ('Princess probably didn't mean to do it'. Yeah, that s**t totally can happen on accident, and it would have been SO out of character for you).
I won't say growing up as my father's kid was easy, but for that situation, she had it easy. I should have taken the sociopath route.
14points
#28

Every only child should read comments like these before deciding they got the short end of the stick in life by not having a sibling - a live-in childhood friend. It doesn't always work out that way. Hopefully most sibling relationships are healthy and happy throughout life, but some of them are a lifetime commitment of frustration and misery about which you can do very little.
14points
#29

My narcissistic brother is almost 10 years older than I, so I don’t remember a lot of the things he did. I know the stories, though. He left home at 16. We did have a relationship as adults, but I cut it off realizing that he hadn’t changed. He’s stolen from my family members, is a pathological liar, and a con man to say the least... we call him “Con Man Don”. He has even lied to his children about having cancer. He is a piece of work. He has never ever acknowledged anything he’s done, in fact he acts like none of it ever happened. As of now, we do not talk. I am close to his children. I get joy out of family events my brother actually attends because I make him super uncomfortable 🤣.
I also have an older sister who has gaslighted me my entire life. I didn’t realize it till adulthood when people would point out her behavior to me, and question it. She’s narcissistic in many ways too, never sees the error of her own ways. I can be around her, but I have to keep it limited. I finally learned to have boundaries!
I also have an older sister who has gaslighted me my entire life. I didn’t realize it till adulthood when people would point out her behavior to me, and question it. She’s narcissistic in many ways too, never sees the error of her own ways. I can be around her, but I have to keep it limited. I finally learned to have boundaries!
14points
#30

I don't just use "sociopath" as a random insult for her. She has a very high opinion on herself (posting about how good of a person she is on Facebook), never admits she's wrong or takes personal responsibility for anything (she got fired for coming into work late (and I mean hours late because she kept falling back asleep whenever we tried waking her) one-too-many times, but she believes it was because the boss had it out for her), when she does admit she's wrong, she always has some kind of excuse to justify it, is completely apathetic to other people's problems (I'm apparently just b******g about nothing when I got s**t for a mess her kids made), and she likes to torment people she knows can't fight back (like our autistic sister).
However, the moment she really crossed the line was when my parents found out that she stole hundreds of dollars from their bank account. On a day where they had to take me to the hospital because the right side of my face was numb (don't worry, it was just Bell's Palsy). She tried to rob my parents blind while they were worried that I might have gotten a stroke. My parents were ready to tell her she was dead to them and planned on pressing charges, but she made up some sob story about how she's a j****e who needs help. I mean, she *is* a j****e, but she doesn't actually want help. For the last few months, she's been living with our grandma to "get rehabilitated," leaving us to look after her kids, but I know she's just trying to weasel her way out of criminal charges.
However, the moment she really crossed the line was when my parents found out that she stole hundreds of dollars from their bank account. On a day where they had to take me to the hospital because the right side of my face was numb (don't worry, it was just Bell's Palsy). She tried to rob my parents blind while they were worried that I might have gotten a stroke. My parents were ready to tell her she was dead to them and planned on pressing charges, but she made up some sob story about how she's a j****e who needs help. I mean, she *is* a j****e, but she doesn't actually want help. For the last few months, she's been living with our grandma to "get rehabilitated," leaving us to look after her kids, but I know she's just trying to weasel her way out of criminal charges.
14points
#31
Oh boy, my big sis kicking down door frames bc she " had something inside" strangling my little sisters, picking up knives to threaten my mom and young kids, smashing furniture, pouring juice in gas tanks,breaking my brother's nose and always begging borrowing and leeching..and some how they always "deserved it"....no one is violent like that....I don't live at home but I'm having my younger siblings document so I can build a case for them...I don't know how to deal with her.
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#32
It's overwhelming everything is about them.
A good example is picture you have cancer and they have a small scratch.
They will talk about their scratch and expect you to listen while ignoring your issues with cancer.
A good example is picture you have cancer and they have a small scratch.
They will talk about their scratch and expect you to listen while ignoring your issues with cancer.
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#33
Sister is a narcissist. Used to threaten me and say generally mean things when we were little, that progressed to her telling lies to get me punished as we got older, and then just being manipulative and trying to use anything to get people to feel sorry for her.
My younger sisters used to get called fat and told that everybody in the family was embarrassed by them , they were 8 and 13 years younger than this sister so she was picking on a 10 and 5 year old when she left for college! Her parents have enabled her in doing this for years by telling us other kids that we just had to learn to ignore her comments and rarely ever reprimanding her for being a b***h.
She is almost 50 years old now and still acts the same way but we don't have to deal with her when we don't want to but she still tries to divide the family and she has the best luck with me since she is the oldest and more favored.
I recall the time I loaned her something and she came to me and claimed someone else broke it, I knew how this would go. She would claim that since she didn't break it she wasn't responsible and her mother would agree and dad would follow mom and I'd be screwed out of my present that I'd just gotten a couple weeks before so I told the superintendent at school since it was supposedly broken at school. We got home and she botched and complained to the parents and when she was done dad came into my room and ripped my a*s with "YOU don't go dragging our personal lives out in public" and "we'll handle this stuff at home" and never took the 2 seconds to ask my side of the story which just enforced my belief of how it was going to go. My mom then came in and told me that social life was different in high school and I was in the wrong. F**k them.
My younger sisters used to get called fat and told that everybody in the family was embarrassed by them , they were 8 and 13 years younger than this sister so she was picking on a 10 and 5 year old when she left for college! Her parents have enabled her in doing this for years by telling us other kids that we just had to learn to ignore her comments and rarely ever reprimanding her for being a b***h.
She is almost 50 years old now and still acts the same way but we don't have to deal with her when we don't want to but she still tries to divide the family and she has the best luck with me since she is the oldest and more favored.
I recall the time I loaned her something and she came to me and claimed someone else broke it, I knew how this would go. She would claim that since she didn't break it she wasn't responsible and her mother would agree and dad would follow mom and I'd be screwed out of my present that I'd just gotten a couple weeks before so I told the superintendent at school since it was supposedly broken at school. We got home and she botched and complained to the parents and when she was done dad came into my room and ripped my a*s with "YOU don't go dragging our personal lives out in public" and "we'll handle this stuff at home" and never took the 2 seconds to ask my side of the story which just enforced my belief of how it was going to go. My mom then came in and told me that social life was different in high school and I was in the wrong. F**k them.
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13points
#34

My experience? About 15 years of t*****e mentally and physically.
13points
#36
Full bodied disappointment in yourself and an all consuming jealousy you feel when you finally experience other peoples healthy family dynamics.
Holidays are spent waiting for the fireworks to go off.
If I stand up for myself, my sister either tries to talk me out of it or she cries and threatens (and has actually attempted) s*****e. After she cries she buys me gifts in order to "bring peace".
I'm finally old enough to get away from her (lives with my parents), and it is awful because she gaslights my mom and is emotionally a*****e and when I'm there I do my best to protect my mom but for now its either get out and survive or stay and sacrifice my future. The way my parents are treated breaks my heart and I wish I could have stayed to protect them.
I have no love for her, and it genuinely would've been much better for my family as a whole if she died from one of her attempts.
Holidays are spent waiting for the fireworks to go off.
If I stand up for myself, my sister either tries to talk me out of it or she cries and threatens (and has actually attempted) s*****e. After she cries she buys me gifts in order to "bring peace".
I'm finally old enough to get away from her (lives with my parents), and it is awful because she gaslights my mom and is emotionally a*****e and when I'm there I do my best to protect my mom but for now its either get out and survive or stay and sacrifice my future. The way my parents are treated breaks my heart and I wish I could have stayed to protect them.
I have no love for her, and it genuinely would've been much better for my family as a whole if she died from one of her attempts.
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12points
#37

One time, I didn't order my sister a pizza, and she locked me out of the house for the rest of the day.
Another time, she asked me to make her a sandwich which I then forgot to put cheese on and she screamed "You did this just to f**k with me!" Then beat me up.
6 or 7 years ago, I bought her a really nice pair of red suede boots she wanted for Christmas, she then proceeded to hit me in the arm and legs with them for a reason that I can't quite remember.
When I was 4 or 5 she told me that everyone dies and that my mom was gonna die.
When my parents got divorced and my mom moved us into an apartment, my sister never let me leave my room so she could have the whole place to herself. I found out later it was because she was smoking cigarettes and didn't want to get caught, but if I left my room, I was being chased right back in with the threat that if I tried to leave again she'll k**l me.
Theres a few other little things here and there, I wasn't allowed to watch tv shows she liked, or eat any kind of food or candy that she liked. Always had to play games that she wanted to play. I wasn't allowed to climb this certain tree in our backyard past a certain point but she and my cousin could.
She never let me sleep in my own bed, I always had to sleep in the bed with her and she'd just push me off the bed with her legs anyway. When I'd try to go back to my room she'd scream and cry and try to hit me until I came back.
I'm sure she's done countless other things that I'm just blocking out but yeah, it kinda sucked being raised with a controlling tyrant of an older sister.
Another time, she asked me to make her a sandwich which I then forgot to put cheese on and she screamed "You did this just to f**k with me!" Then beat me up.
6 or 7 years ago, I bought her a really nice pair of red suede boots she wanted for Christmas, she then proceeded to hit me in the arm and legs with them for a reason that I can't quite remember.
When I was 4 or 5 she told me that everyone dies and that my mom was gonna die.
When my parents got divorced and my mom moved us into an apartment, my sister never let me leave my room so she could have the whole place to herself. I found out later it was because she was smoking cigarettes and didn't want to get caught, but if I left my room, I was being chased right back in with the threat that if I tried to leave again she'll k**l me.
Theres a few other little things here and there, I wasn't allowed to watch tv shows she liked, or eat any kind of food or candy that she liked. Always had to play games that she wanted to play. I wasn't allowed to climb this certain tree in our backyard past a certain point but she and my cousin could.
She never let me sleep in my own bed, I always had to sleep in the bed with her and she'd just push me off the bed with her legs anyway. When I'd try to go back to my room she'd scream and cry and try to hit me until I came back.
I'm sure she's done countless other things that I'm just blocking out but yeah, it kinda sucked being raised with a controlling tyrant of an older sister.
11points
#38
It’s really sad honestly, i always see other people with their older siblings hanging out and such and wish it could be like that with my sister.
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10points
#39
My entire childhood my sister would manipulate me and anyone else she could. Had a baby when she was a teen, so I "babysat". I was seven years younger, and basically raised her first two kids.
She would move across country at the drop of a hat, unending her kids lives numerous times. All of her kids had different dads. She's been married 3 times.
Our mother almost died a few years ago, and she made the whole thing about her.
Her kids don't even talk to her anymore. They are all adults now, and I'm they're support system.
I own the house our mother lives in, and she tells me everything I should do for our mom and fix the house. I pay the mortgage, I buy her groceries, I make sure she gets to the doctor, but that isn't enough for my sister. Does she offer any support? Nope, just criticism.
She gives me endless s**t about how I bought a nice house for my family when our mom's house needs a new roof. Told her if she pays for it, I'll get it fixed. She says she can't afford it. Yeah? Me neither.
Since the beginning of the year, she got hooked on d***s, left her husband (who should have been the best thing to ever happen to her. He's great). She's attempted s*****e and tried to say it's everyone else's fault. She was in a psych ward for hallucinations and hearing voices. Again, it's everyone else's fault.
I haven't seen her since the holidays last year and I plan to keep it that way.
She would move across country at the drop of a hat, unending her kids lives numerous times. All of her kids had different dads. She's been married 3 times.
Our mother almost died a few years ago, and she made the whole thing about her.
Her kids don't even talk to her anymore. They are all adults now, and I'm they're support system.
I own the house our mother lives in, and she tells me everything I should do for our mom and fix the house. I pay the mortgage, I buy her groceries, I make sure she gets to the doctor, but that isn't enough for my sister. Does she offer any support? Nope, just criticism.
She gives me endless s**t about how I bought a nice house for my family when our mom's house needs a new roof. Told her if she pays for it, I'll get it fixed. She says she can't afford it. Yeah? Me neither.
Since the beginning of the year, she got hooked on d***s, left her husband (who should have been the best thing to ever happen to her. He's great). She's attempted s*****e and tried to say it's everyone else's fault. She was in a psych ward for hallucinations and hearing voices. Again, it's everyone else's fault.
I haven't seen her since the holidays last year and I plan to keep it that way.
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10points
#40
Not a blood sibling, but my cousin I grew up in the same house with. We considered each other brother and sister.
He committed s*****e in 2016, and it wasn't until then I realised how f****d up he was. He was a*****e to the family pets (throwing them across the room), constantly said how he's going to end up in prison for k**ling someone, and made comments about how r**e isn't r**e if the woman isn't screaming and fighting back.
When I was 6 to 9 he'd throw me into doors and tackle me to the ground, choking me. Memories of that are far and few due to the gaslighting from the rest of my family.
He committed s*****e in 2016, and it wasn't until then I realised how f****d up he was. He was a*****e to the family pets (throwing them across the room), constantly said how he's going to end up in prison for k**ling someone, and made comments about how r**e isn't r**e if the woman isn't screaming and fighting back.
When I was 6 to 9 he'd throw me into doors and tackle me to the ground, choking me. Memories of that are far and few due to the gaslighting from the rest of my family.
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