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“It Was A Culture Of Fear”: People Over 50 Reveal What Work Culture Used To Look Like

“It Was A Culture Of Fear”: People Over 50 Reveal What Work Culture Used To Look Like

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Sometimes, when watching an old show or a period piece, you get a glimpse of what offices were truly like in the past. Cigarette smoke, strict dress codes, and not a single computer in sight, for example. 
Someone wanted to hear from netizens “who are 50+ years old, what has changed the most about working when you started working vs working nowadays?” Older folks shared their best examples. So prepare for a blast from the past, get comfortable as you scroll through, be sure to upvote your favorite examples, and share your own if you have any. We also got in touch with LightningStrikes818 to learn more.

#1

“It Was A Culture Of Fear”: People Over 50 Reveal What Work Culture Used To Look Like
I've been working in healthcare for 33+ years. At the beginning (late 80s/early 90s), everything was patient centered. Now it's payment centered.
135points

Bored Panda got in touch with LightningStrikes818 and they were kind enough to answer some of our questions. Firstly, we were curious to learn why they asked this particular question to the internet. 

“It's a topic that I have had on my mind for a bit. I feel like young and old generations are clashing on a lot of things in general right now, whether in the workplace, politics, general cultural and social values, etc. I'm a 28-year-old man. As much as I can complain about things in the modern workplace, I didn't experience what work was like for people who are 50+ years old who started their careers and first jobs in a very different world. I feel like old people love to say how much easier younger people have it now and only complain while young people love to say how much easier older people had it and only complain about us!”

#2

“It Was A Culture Of Fear”: People Over 50 Reveal What Work Culture Used To Look Like
The people at the top earned a great salary and everyone else a good salary.
Now the people at the top subscribe to the pirate life, take everything, give nothing back.
114points

#3

“It Was A Culture Of Fear”: People Over 50 Reveal What Work Culture Used To Look Like
In the early 90’s I could get by on minimum wage full time. Now it would not be possible
81points

“The truth is I wish both generations actually talked to each other and could have more honest conversations with each other about their experiences at work. I feel like more common ground could be found than people realized. I loved reading the comments on my thread. It was truly fascinating and my question truly struck a nerve with a lot of Redditors. I'm glad I was able to give people who have been working way longer than me a voice, to be honest about what they've been through at work and how things have changed over time, for better and/or for worse,” he shared with Bored Panda. 

#4

“It Was A Culture Of Fear”: People Over 50 Reveal What Work Culture Used To Look Like
I watched office work go from sedentary to virtually immobile. We used to retrieve paper files, pass memos around, consult with coworkers in other sections and floors. Now everything is available on the screen in front of us, everything can be shared with a few clicks. It’s convenient, but so unhealthy.
80points

#5

“It Was A Culture Of Fear”: People Over 50 Reveal What Work Culture Used To Look Like
Benefits.
I used to get 20 vacation days and 10/12 sick days. Now I get 20 PTO days. So, that’s a one-third reduction in benefits.
I always purchase the best health insurance my employer offers, now the best is garbage. Twenty years ago, I was hospitalized, tons of tests and specialists, private room, final bill: $0. My kid was born five weeks premature, spent four weeks in NICU, final bill: $0. Now, if I go to the doctor, every single thing costs extra.
All the benefits have been dramatically reduced, but profits skyrocket.
80points

#6

“It Was A Culture Of Fear”: People Over 50 Reveal What Work Culture Used To Look Like
People smoking indoors. Clouds of smoke everywhere in the office and no way for a nonsmoker to avoid it. That was the norm so you just had to suck it up.
73points

Given the nature of the question, we wanted to know what he thought about more modern workplaces. “I appreciate that the younger generation is raising the cultural voice of mental health in the workplace and work/life balance. I was in a career for the first 5 1/2 years of my professional life that was absolutely brutal. My work/life balance was horrible, to say the least, and I grew extremely depressed and burned out for a while in my mid-20s because of it. I only got out of that rut by finding a new job that I really like now that values me as a HUMAN rather than a number on a spreadsheet or a number of hours on a schedule. It's demoralizing and exhausting.”

#7

“It Was A Culture Of Fear”: People Over 50 Reveal What Work Culture Used To Look Like
Skirts/dresses and pantyhose required of women in many offices through 1990’s.
65points

#8

“It Was A Culture Of Fear”: People Over 50 Reveal What Work Culture Used To Look Like
Doctor. Less likely to be literally worked to death due to so called “safe hour” rules where 23 and 26 hour shifts without sleep are now banned. Officially anyway. Also the newer residents are pushing back against unpaid overtime and taking hospital management to court and winning for unpaid wages. 
65points

#9

“It Was A Culture Of Fear”: People Over 50 Reveal What Work Culture Used To Look Like
For myself, it was a culture of fear. Sexist bosses who would harass female employees constantly. They didn't have to be male either. I had a female boss that would measure your skirt length by having you kneel on the floor, and would measure your hem with a ruler. More than two inches? Clock out, go home and change and then come back. Rinse and repeat. Many male managers took pride in being able to make women cry. There was public embarrassment if you made a mistake. Feeling like your job was in jeopardy at all times.
Surprisingly, I don't miss it.
64points

“I also personally love the ability to work from home. That really changed my life for the better. I used to go into the office sometimes 7 days a week (yes, 7 at the worst). I had no energy to do anything else after doing this. I'm so thankful remote work has become normalized.”

“Lastly, from my personal experience, I feel like workplaces have become a little less tolerant of bosses/people in general who acted really horribly towards others. This is a problem that won't ever fully go away but I do think there's a little more accessibility to calling people out who blatantly harass, bully, and create hostile work environments. People are more highly aware of "toxic work environments" and won't put up with them nowadays - job hopping is more common than ever. People are demanding more and better from their employers, and I say good for them! If you're surrounded by a draining and poor work environment - it's best to leave. I've done it before and never regretted it, not once. It seems like employees have more of a voice now for their workplace concerns and more opportunities to find better out there. Job hopping is totally normalized.”

#10

“It Was A Culture Of Fear”: People Over 50 Reveal What Work Culture Used To Look Like
We took a company van with a logo on it to take out of town guests to a strip club. I don’t even think I can say that out loud at work today.
60points

#11

That you chose a career, and you worked for an employee - and they valued your experience. You rose in the ranks of your profession, you became a valued team member, and you stayed until you retired. Changing jobs often is frowned on, if you make a job commitment - you follow through on it. People get bothered and quit/move/change really quickly now. That's not necessarily bad, but it has created a gap in expertise - everyone is new all the time, and there isn't any value in having experience. If you happen to be an elder in your field with some level of legacy knowledge -it doesn't seem to matter because your boss is likely younger than you, and less experienced. There used to be jobs - what you did to get paid and live, and careers - what you did because you wanted to invest time into being good at something AND that was how you made a living. Moreover - you went to school to be in a career. So you put time and energy into attaining your job, therefore you'd want to stay in it and grow. In theory.
I'm not sure anyone cares about being in a career anymore. Because we all feel so betrayed by the system - wages not keeping up with COL, inflation, (and inflation subsiding and prices staying high because its what the market will bear) - when everyone is replaceable, then no one is an expert. I'm GenX. I work in healthcare. I work in a broken system that no one actually wants to fix. Those of us working in this system are now just grist for the mill. It's too bad because we spent a lot of time and money to go to school to be able to work in our chosen field.
In contrast - my mom was also a nurse. She had a career. She worked in it until she was 70 and retired. She worked with a team that mostly stayed the same, over decades. I don't work with anyone I started with at my job 6 years ago.
57points

#12

“It Was A Culture Of Fear”: People Over 50 Reveal What Work Culture Used To Look Like
Having to go to the bank to cash my paycheck
52points

On the other hand, we were also interested to hear what he thought we could learn from workplaces of the past. “I think companies should read my thread, honestly. I saw comments about how careers used to mean you were supposed to stay at a job for years and years and develop your craft solely with them. That is not the case anymore. Companies need to ask themselves why employees are less willing to stay longer now. My personal experience with job hopping is that I often found I could get paid more by job hopping every 2 years in my old career path. That shouldn't be the case, but it is. It seems like in-company raises are underwhelming people and companies aren't giving enough other reasons for people to stay.”

#13

Customer service: how rude patrons have become
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51points

#14

“It Was A Culture Of Fear”: People Over 50 Reveal What Work Culture Used To Look Like
Hardly anybody has a pension anymore.
50points

#15

I'm 42 but feel like I want to chime in.
Health and safety has changed loads. You wouldn't get away with half the s**t we did when I was 17
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50points

“A big theme of the replies seemed to be that how much work we get done in a limited amount of time along with less resource waste along the way is hugely improved, but the wages and what we as a society get out of work has not kept up accordingly. Which is sad, in my opinion. Think of how much more work people would do if they actually felt financially, emotionally, and professionally fulfilled. Corporate greed killed optimism in the workplace, in my opinion.”

#16

“It Was A Culture Of Fear”: People Over 50 Reveal What Work Culture Used To Look Like
Sending a memo meant typing something, sometimes on an actual typewriter. Physically passing said document to the people in the “to” line. They would sign their initials signifying they read it. Then pass on to the next.
I remember people used to smoke cigarettes in their office.
45points

#17

“It Was A Culture Of Fear”: People Over 50 Reveal What Work Culture Used To Look Like
Maternity and paternity leave are new (US). When I started working it was still common to fire women who were expecting. Or require them to take very little leave. Women used to brag about taking only a few days off.
Today the young men where I work get months off as paternity leave when their spouses have a baby.
43points

#18

“It Was A Culture Of Fear”: People Over 50 Reveal What Work Culture Used To Look Like
In the 1980s, people getting s**t-faced drunk at lunch was a regular occurrence. I've only seen it twice in the last 5 years.
Flexible time and WFH didn't exist.
43points

#19

“It Was A Culture Of Fear”: People Over 50 Reveal What Work Culture Used To Look Like
My first health insurance was Blue Cross, top level. Cost me nothing monthly and I had $5 copays.
41points

#20

“It Was A Culture Of Fear”: People Over 50 Reveal What Work Culture Used To Look Like
Gifts from vendors were a thing. I used to get things like free bottles of booze from enterprise software companies we licensed from. That dried up years ago.
41points
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