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30 People Share How They Escaped Multi-Level Marketing Schemes That Sucked Them In
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30 People Share How They Escaped Multi-Level Marketing Schemes That Sucked Them In

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Multi-level marketing (also known as network marketing) is a controversial direct-sales business strategy where individuals sell products to others in their network. It follows a pyramid structure where people that make the most are at the top, and those who find themselves at the bottom usually don’t make any money at all.
Pyramid schemes are considered illegal because they’re paying distributors to recruit other participants. MLMs claim that they're different since you don't have to recruit but sell their products. However, without your network, you wouldn't be able to sell anything at all. People often get involved without even knowing that it’s a total scam and lose a lot of money along the way. Fortunately, some of them do escape.
One user asked the r/AskReddit community to share what red flags made them quit this industry and how did they do it. More than 3.7K brave former MLM members told their stories and Bored Panda collected some of the most terrifying comments from this post. Make sure to check them out below and if you have a bad MLM experience yourself, don’t be afraid to open up about it below.

#1

30 People Share How They Escaped Multi-Level Marketing Schemes That Sucked Them In
My mom was caught up in the Market America scheme. They manipulated an already vulnerable, mentally unstable woman to sink $20k into her “business”. She took her own life less than a year later. If the company has washed up celebrities as spokespeople and asks you to spend more money than you typically make in your “business”, you may want to reconsider your investment.
129points

Bored Panda reached out to Robert FitzPatrick, president of Pyramid Scheme Alert and author of Ponzinomics: The Untold Story of Multi-Level Marketing. He is an expert in multi-level marketing schemes and pyramid sales fraud who said that millions of people get lured into MLM because they don’t know its history, origins, or financial consequences.

Trying to unmask what MLM actually is and how it differs from a pyramid scheme, we found out that the latter is, technically, illegal. "However, there is no national law that bans them. There is no national law that even uses the term, 'pyramid scheme.' Some states do have anti-pyramid scheme laws but they are seldom enforced and some have been written to exclude MLM," FitzPatrick explained. 

The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) has prosecuted about 30 MLMs out of nearly a thousand over the last 25 years or so: "It was never explained why those 30 were picked or how they differed from the hundreds of others. Just selling a product does not mean that an MLM enterprise is not a pyramid scheme. All of those that have been prosecuted as pyramids sold products. Some operated for many years before finally being closed down." 

#2

30 People Share How They Escaped Multi-Level Marketing Schemes That Sucked Them In
My recruiter told me she made $400 at the party I was at. I later learned she made 25% of that.
I was told if I could get 2 people under me, I would make $400-$500 per month.
Then I was told I needed 4 people instead of 2.
Then I was $2,000 in debt with nothing to show for it.
Deleted them all and changed my phone number.
Edit:
I am an owner of 2 businesses, so I thought adding a small side hustle would be an easy transition, but it turned out that as a legitimate business owner, I couldn’t bring myself to use the toxic business practices that were expected of me (cold messaging, hounding people for orders, constantly reminding people about deals, etc.).
When I left, I helped the two girls who were under me get out as well, and apologized for roping them into something I thought was a good deal.
127points

A pyramid scheme is basically a fraudulent system where the vast majority loses. "The loss is determined by the model itself. The basic model is the 'endless chain' and the 'money transfer.' Each investor gains money only if others can be recruited onto the chain," he explained.

"Some of the money from the recruits is transferred to the recruiters. The new recruits are told they can do the same — forever. This is obviously impossible based on expansion. Those at the bottom will lose. The majority are always at the bottom. This is by design."

#3

30 People Share How They Escaped Multi-Level Marketing Schemes That Sucked Them In
My mother did Amway years ago. She told me she quit when she realized she approached every new acquaintance with an aim to make a sale instead of making a friend.
102points

#4

30 People Share How They Escaped Multi-Level Marketing Schemes That Sucked Them In
By not getting in, I’ve seen a friend and his wife get into Amway, and in 3 years, they sold most of what they had, moved back in with the husbands mother, and both begin selling drugs to support the Amway habit.
They still think they are mere months away from being millionaires. its infuriating.
90points

According to the expert, the defining characteristics of all MLMs are the same as those of all pyramid schemes:

  • The endless chain recruiting model;
  • The requirement to pay to enroll and participate. This can be with cash or the purchase of goods;
  • Necessity to recruit in order to make the money that is promised;
  • Money is transferred from "last ones in" to the top recruiters.

#5

30 People Share How They Escaped Multi-Level Marketing Schemes That Sucked Them In
When my husband died (abusive prick so don’t feel bad for me) he left me with a f**k ton of debt (ok you can feel bad for me now lol). Not long after he died I had gone to a Tupperware party for a friend, and made some positive comment about one of the products, and that put me on the presenter’s radar. This presenter happened to be one of those top tier ladies that ignored their family to make it big. She was/is the regional person. Whatever the title is.
I was BROKE. Paying off so much stuff while waiting for the life insurance to come through, you’d be surprised at the amount of companies that don’t give a s**t that you’ve lost a spouse, they just want their money. So Tupperware was spun as a way to earn extra money. She even gave me the starter kit without having to pay up front.
Problem was, I worked full time, and it was near impossible to book parties. I did my first presentation at my house and booked no parties. I reached out to all my friends and family and booked no parties.
The pressure from this woman was IMMENSE. She’d call me while I was at my day job. She try to convince me to quit my day job to focus on Tupperware. She knew I was broke, but she was adamant that if I quit my job I’d make it big, and before I know it I’d have a Tupperware car just like her.
She never listened to me. Even when I said to her “How do you expect me to pay my bills if I quit my job and start up Tupperware?” She had a response for everything. Nothing was based in logic and every time she called me, which was weekly, I was filled with dread.
I started to ghost her. It took months for me to work up the courage to tell her I didn’t want to do it anymore. It took weeks for her to accept me “don’t want to do it anymore”. She dragged it on, and on, and on. Finally she sent me a curt “Leave your kit at the front door” message which I did.
She tried a couple of years down the track to recruit me again. I ignored her calls.
All I wanted to extra income to help me. I also wanted to add to my friend group. All I got was stress, anxiety, and frustration.
89points

#6

30 People Share How They Escaped Multi-Level Marketing Schemes That Sucked Them In
Woman I know who sells Younique and recruits HARD, pivots between bragging about her boss babe lifestyle, and selling random used household stuff on eBay and Facebook marketplace for £1.50.
66points

Multi-level marketing companies claim to be using a direct-selling strategy but very few people actually sell goods to the general public. "Money is made by recruiting others, who must buy some product in order to participate," Robert FitzPatrick explained. "MLMs claim to be an income opportunity, but, by design, most are at the bottom of the chain and therefore always lose. In fact, only 1% a year in MLM make a real profit and that comes from the losses of the others."

#7

30 People Share How They Escaped Multi-Level Marketing Schemes That Sucked Them In
Joined a jewelry-based MLM thinking it would be cute to sell jewelry as a side hustle in July after I relocated across the country. I got roped in to the “be your own boss” and “make money while you sleep” mentality, and for a while, it boosted my confidence because I truly thought I was doing a great job running my own business.
On paper, I brought in good money (about $100 per live show, which was one hour a week), but I had to ship out the jewelry to them, which ate about 20% of the profit, then the money earned went back into ordering more jewelry.
By September, once the glitz and excitement of it all wore off and I realized nothing was coming back to me, my boyfriend told me the only way to earn money in the business was to add new “business partners.” I told him I wasn’t interested in doing that, but that was part of the scheme. I was so hurt by the people who had roped me in to the business. So I quit that same day. Luckily, I made it out with only like $30 lost, but I still have a ton of jewelry and packing materials taking up space in my house.
63points

#8

30 People Share How They Escaped Multi-Level Marketing Schemes That Sucked Them In
I worked at the head office of a large MLM, and one of the OG’s. Mary Kay.
You have to live, breathe, and s**t pink. Honestly, I once got sent home from the office because I had made a cardinal mistake… I had worn a pantsuit to the office. As a woman, we were expected to wear a skirt or dress daily. I was new and didn’t really think they’d get upset over a pantsuit, all things considered. I was wrong.
I know this is a different perspective, but hear me out. I didn’t really know what Mary Kay was initially, all I remember is seeing the old school pink eye shadow cubes in my mom’s makeup drawer. I started to discover that things were all a bit strange and … predatory. We would run campaigns inside of universities and colleges because the older generations all “knew” what was up. The company was marketing toward these younger girls specifically because they didn’t know the shtick, and hinging on the fact that we would somehow be able to convince them of making easy money. I heard a lot of horror stories the longer I worked there. Specifically from people who were angrily demanding answers from directors at the annual “Seminar” held in Toronto for Canadian Mary Kay consultants. People losing thousands of dollars. It all felt so criminal to have been a part of.
59points

#9

30 People Share How They Escaped Multi-Level Marketing Schemes That Sucked Them In
MLMs deliberately prey on the vulnerable. When you start staying home with your kids, especially after having a career, there are a lot of things (potentially) going on at once: social isolation, loss of income leading to feelings of inadequacy or not doing your part, ambivalence about the worth of unpaid labor in the home, guilt and insecurity about your parenting decisions... the list goes on. MLMs promise mothers what seems like the perfect solution: being able to earn money and spend time with their children and connect with an instant community of women just like you and feel worthy and important again. Those promises are lies, but sadly, they are very effectively aimed at those who are, because of their vulnerable state, most likely to believe them.
53points

One of the biggest problems with these schemes is that so many people get involved in them. There are a couple of reasons why: "They have been deceived into believing that MLM offers are real income opportunity (not knowing that 99% never make a profit) and that it is based on direct selling (not knowing that almost no one does or could sell MLM goods door to door for a profit.)" 

#10

30 People Share How They Escaped Multi-Level Marketing Schemes That Sucked Them In
I know a girl who got sucked into Arbonne. She constantly makes videos on FB and instagram acting like she has this perfect life and last I heard, her boyfriend (that she claims in her husband on social media) had to call her from a gas station to see if they had any cash in the house because both their credit cards were declined and he needed gas to go to a friend’s birthday party. Needless to say, he didn’t go. It literally says “boss babe” on her Instagram.
52points

#11

30 People Share How They Escaped Multi-Level Marketing Schemes That Sucked Them In
Some dude tried to recruit me into buying/selling energy drinks. It was a known scam throughout school at this point so I decided to go along with it to see where it would go. The guy’s dad was a friend of mine, and my dad has a pretty well known computer shop in town.
Anyway, I go to pick up MLM man from his house to go to a meeting. This guy loads three cases of energy drinks (I think they were called “VEEMA” or something) into my car. I was already sketched out and this was a liability I didn’t want to encumber myself with so I told him I had a family emergency. He got out of the car, told me to keep the -85 energy drinks. The 3 cases were in my car for a few weeks, never touched them. about a month after hearing anything, one morning there were maybe 8-10 cases of the energy drinks stacked right outside the back door of my dad’s shop.
2/10, would not try to join a cult again.
45points

#12

30 People Share How They Escaped Multi-Level Marketing Schemes That Sucked Them In
Used to sell younique. It was easy to get out. I wasn’t making any money, I couldn’t be fake to sell my product and I learned about quality makeup and younique ain’t it lol.
You can buy colourpop for literally 1/4 of the price and 10x the pigment and blendability.
40points

He continued: "With salaries declining and costs rising, many people look for alternatives to jobs and MLM falsely promises to offer an alternative." But the sad truth is that often they end up losing money and blame themselves for their failure. This is due to the fact that they have been falsely told that this model works for everyone and the only reason anyone would fail is if they quit or did not try enough. "The lie is accepted by most people," FitzPatrick said.

#13

30 People Share How They Escaped Multi-Level Marketing Schemes That Sucked Them In
I've been in sales almost all of my adult life. Early on in my real career, Amway looked like an easy touch. I liked the challenge, I always hit target. It seemed simple.
I was naiive. I got hooked on the tapes and books. I was better at my day job, but I couldn't make it work in Amway. Even after a couple of years with the seminars and books and tapes.
I don't know why it took me so long to do the damn simple math. I had an epiphany about how the real money was being made in the tools (books, tapes, seminars). Then I started to critically think about where the money was coming from. And I realized I had been lied to. I drifted away from the group and then got a new job opportunity in a different city. I took that, changed my number, and haven't looked back on it in 15 years.
40points

#14

30 People Share How They Escaped Multi-Level Marketing Schemes That Sucked Them In
My red flag was that they would not share with me the company name when they brought me in. At one point the recruiter left the use the restroom and I snooped around and saw a logo of the name. When he came back, I asked him what it stood for and immediately he got defensive. He also told me to do everything I can (sell my TV) to join. Also, the teleconference was weird AF. They started using the term "untouchables" for their higher ups. I noped my way out and they were pissed. They're probably the reason I got so much junk mail in the following months.
40points

#15

30 People Share How They Escaped Multi-Level Marketing Schemes That Sucked Them In
I was a Mary Kay girl for a short period of time…They kept claiming that if you sold so much, you get a “free car with no strings attached.” Long story short, I googled it and there WERE INDEED attatched strings.
They WORSHIP Mary Kay Ash (aka the founder of Mary Kay). It’s kind of like how the FLDS worships Warren Jeffs. It was very unsettling, and very cult-like.
For the makeovers, you’d do a before and after photo of the subject. They wouldn’t let you smile in the before photo, but would make you in the after photo. Therefore, you’d automatically look 100x better in the after photo, regardless of how s**tty the makeup was.
My regional director bought a bunch of stuff under my name without telling me (she didn’t use my credit cards or anything, but when I initially got the email receipt for it I freaked out because I thought my numbers were stolen). She never told me that it was her, but I found out by searching the address on the order. I later found out that it had to do with some bonus the upline would get if their downlines bought enough inventory in a certain period of time. This wasn’t a huge deal but it definitely weirded me out.
A lot of the girls who were at my level were from my school. A few of them really didn’t like me growing up. The moment I walked in that door, they all pretended to love me.
And yeahh, that’s all I can think of.
37points

However, there are a few ways on how to avoid getting involved in such situations. The multi-level marketing industry is based on deception and once a person is enrolled, they are being told that in order to succeed, they have to blindly believe and not have any doubts.

“The key to escape MLM and to avoid MLM is clear: investigate, ask questions, ask for data, just as one would in a real business — do the due diligence. Think for yourself. Questioning, doubting, critically thinking — these are good habits and everyone’s right to do. MLM tries to seduce, deceive and persuade people not to think for themselves," he advised.

#16

30 People Share How They Escaped Multi-Level Marketing Schemes That Sucked Them In
I had a friend who got into Herbalife. Ended up with a bunch of expired products in his garage and everyone except me unfriended him on Facebook for constantly pestering them. Herbalife is a pyramid scheme and a scam.
37points

#17

30 People Share How They Escaped Multi-Level Marketing Schemes That Sucked Them In
LuLaroe literally bankrupt my wife I, and damn near ended our marriage. My wife isn't a dumb person, her heart was in the right place but she is easily swayed by "friends" and me being the voice of reason quickly faded out of her mind. The one year she took part is one of the worst years of my life, it ruined us financially, f**ked up our taxes, and probably took years off my life. It's been three years and we're just now finally back in a good place.
36points

#18

30 People Share How They Escaped Multi-Level Marketing Schemes That Sucked Them In
When my upline, in training, was explaining how you always had to be "on." If anyone asks how you're going, you always say, "Fantastic!". The fakeness made my skin crawl. I got out of there asap.
36points

The voices opposing MLM are growing widely and loudly all over the world. "They are demanding that law enforcement investigate MLMs for deception. They are demanding the media tell the truth about consumer losses and the methods of domination and deception that MLMs are using," the expert said. "The truth is available now. People just need to seek it out."

#19

30 People Share How They Escaped Multi-Level Marketing Schemes That Sucked Them In
Just remembered another one. I had this "friend" who told me her work was hiring and that she could try to get me an interview. I was about 16 at the time, she was a year older and drove me to the "interview", it was in an office on the top floor of a strip mall. There were about 20 other people there who were being shown a presentation of the business, very pyramid schemy vibes. They had canvas photos of their top employees on the walls of all these marvelous trips they went on. During the hour presentation I never learned what the business was, they basically just told us how amazing and easy it was to get ahead in this business. The guy who runs the operation and all the employees were also there, I made a comment to my friend about how this felt like a cult and she said, and I kid you not, " guywholeadthepyramidscheme doesn't like when people call it that". I noped the f**k on out of there fuming after this friend and her co-workers tried to push me into whatever the f**k sales job they were trying to con me into.
35points

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30 People Share How They Escaped Multi-Level Marketing Schemes That Sucked Them In
Isagenix. First red flag was when they told us not to say the name isagenix when trying to recruit members or clients to buy into our products.
Oh man, this was like 6-7 years ago (would’ve been a millionaire by now lmfao jk)
It was like $350 starting pack for the 30 day and I only ever made a few sales. I had to call and message my friends who I thought would be interested in losing weight. I only basically messaged people who commenting on my photos saying they wanted more info.
I didn’t make much money from it and I had to keep buying products for myself and post before and after photos. They were super annoying with texting me all the time and pressuring me to go to their events. Just a bunch of fake motivational speech. 2 of the people I remember are still in it but never mention they are working for Isagenix, instead they’re freelance nutrition coaches/ etc.
It’s super sketchy and their products aren’t anything special.
32points
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