#1

I work for ICE, currently. I am demoralized and horrified at what is going on. I constantly ask myself if I should leave and decide on NO. Why?
If I quit they will replace me with someone who might ignore a pesky detail like a suspects rights. Just the other day I told a local police department they cant hold someone on one of our administrative warrants, and I know a proud boy would have "overlooked" that and had the PD hold the guy. These new guys coming in wont stop being jerks when Trump leaves office, and a lot of my coworkers feel like they gotta stay to make sure things go back to being sane.
Damn Trump. Damn the Barbie he put in charge, and damn Homan. I swore an oath to the constitution just like they did, but I refuse to wipe my behind with it just because the dictator decided he doesn't like brown people.
#2

That was in the early 2000’s when it was just forming.
That tells you ALL you need to know about how much of a psychopath you need to be to be accepted. This is especially true when you realize they LOWERED THE STANDARDS under Trump because they couldn’t get enough qualified people to join. .
#3

Before you can even begin to argue about it, it helps to know what "it" even is. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE, is actually a surprisingly young agency. According to its own official history, it wasn't created until 2003. It was born from the great, post-9/11 government shake-up that gave us the Department of Homeland Security.
Essentially, the government took parts of the old Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) and the U.S. Customs Service, smashed them together, and gave them a new, much more intimidating name. It was the bureaucratic glow-up nobody asked for. This messy origin story is the key to understanding a distinction that many family members in the online thread desperately tried to make.
They explain that ICE has two very different "legs." One is Homeland Security Investigations (HSI), the part that goes after the "real baddies" like human traffickers and drug cartels. The other is Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO), which is the arm that deals with immigration enforcement, the part we see in the headlines. For many of the families, this distinction is everything.
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Here's the thing nobody really talks about: the job attracts two very different types of people. There are folks who genuinely believe they're protecting communities and following the law as written, and then there are people who were probably looking for any job where they could exercise authority over vulnerable populations. My uncle was the former, but he'd come home with stories about the latter that made his stomach turn.
He told me once about a case where they picked up a guy who'd been in the country for 20 years, owned a small restaurant, employed like a dozen people, had kids in college. No criminal record beyond the immigration violation. The guy's daughter showed up at the detention center and my uncle said watching her beg to see her dad through the glass was one of the worst moments of his career. He processed the paperwork because that was his job, but he stopped sleeping well after that.
The cognitive dissonance was real. He'd justify it by saying "I don't make the laws, I just enforce them," but you could see it eating at him. He'd talk about actual dangerous people they'd caught—gang members, people with violent records—and feel good about that work. Then in the next breath he'd mention a grandmother getting picked up at a routine check-in after 30 years here, and he'd just... go quiet.
What really got to me was how the job changed him. He used to be this warm, joking guy who'd give anyone the shirt off his back. By year 12 or 13, he'd become harder. More suspicious. Started talking about people as "illegals" instead of using their names. My aunt said he'd have nightmares and wouldn't talk about them.
He retired early. Didn't even make it to his full pension. Last Thanksgiving he'd had a few drinks and admitted he wasn't sure anymore if he'd done more harm than good. Said the hardest part wasn't the job itself—it was realizing that following orders doesn't absolve you of responsibility for the outcomes.
I don't have a clean answer here. I love my uncle. I also think the system he was part of is fundamentally broken and causes immense suffering. Both things are true, and I've had to learn to hold that tension without resolving it neatly.
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The controversy surrounding the agency has led a lot of people to ask the same question: what kind of person actually wants to be an ICE agent? This question became the center of a media firestorm in 2026 when a journalist for Slate decided to find out for herself. She applied for a job with ICE, sailed through the initial stages, and was offered a position.
This was despite her being an anti-ICE journalist and not having produced the necessary documents. She even thought she might fail the drug test but got enlisted regardless. The story was intended to be an inside look at the agency, but it also raised a few eyebrows. Critics from all sides accused the reporter of everything from unethical journalism to taking a job away from a potential applicant.
But the uncomfortable question at the heart of the controversy was how someone with no apparent qualifications or ideological commitment to the mission could get so far, so fast. It solidified the public perception, rightly or wrongly, that the agency was less a team of elite, specialized agents and more a group of people who simply checked the right boxes on an application.
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So i taught him de-escalation and painless/soft restraints. Last time i heard from him, he said he was going to try and get a different job as he couldnt handle all of the screaming and shouting. Honestly i was just shocked he wasnt trained at all. He didnt even know basic restraining techniques (Grab by the upper chest, with your body behind the person, lean back, so they cant hit themselves or others. Painless.) If he didnt come to me, dude would probably break down in tears after some of the stuff i heard he goes through.
#8

My grandmother - a woman that lived in the UK illegally for 60years before getting citizenship - and his own mother let it be known that if he ever returns to the UK he will not be welcome by any family because of the shame he has brought with his ridiculous right wing views.
His own brothers have also warned him not to return to the UK.
#9

Looks like he was right.
For the record, he spent his career working on busting substance smuggling, towards the end it was exclusively focused on hard substances. He wasn’t looking for undocumented people.
One of the most common and sympathetic arguments from family members in the thread is that their loved one isn't a political zealot; they're just a pragmatist. In a tough economy, a stable, well-paying federal job with a good pension is the holy grail. For many, the choice to join ICE is a practical decision to secure a comfortable, middle-class life for their family.
And when you look at the numbers, that argument becomes a lot more compelling. A quick glance at a USAJOBS posting for an ICE Deportation Officer shows a starting salary that can range from $55,000 to over $90,000 a year, depending on location and qualifications. Now, compare that to a young person enlisting in the military, and you might start to see the appeal.
According to the official military pay charts, a new recruit starts at a base pay of around $24,000 a year. While the military offers housing and food allowances, the take-home salary is a fraction of what a federal law enforcement agent makes. When you frame it that way, the choice becomes less about ideology and more about a well-paying job without the life-or-death risks of military deployment.
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I haven't seen them in 5 years and the last time I did, i got in an argument with him about how most of the world actually DOESN'T support the US invading them cause the US is 'not that bad' compared to most other armies. Like bruh, no.
#12

So I think people need to be specific on what part of ICE they are talking about. There are two main branches HSI (homeland security investigations) and ERO (enforcement and removal operations). ERO are the guys in the streets.
HSI handled a lot of white collar crimes and things dealing with contraband materials coming into the country. This administration has shifted them over to handling stuff in the streets. And the open secret of HSI is they don’t like what they are doing. And view it was a waste of taxpayer money.
ERO is the devil.
I think what ICE is doing abhorrent and evil, and though I wasn’t directly involved I also do deserve to be held accountable for my actions. And I believe answering questions like this is part of my penance.
Edit: being downvoted for actually answering the actual question
Edit: let me clarify, they are pulling people from HSI and CBP to do the patrols and deportations for ICE as well.
There's a famous, and famously blunt, piece of advice that comedian Ricky Gervais once gave to a room full of A-listers: "You're in no position to lecture the public about anything. You know nothing about the real world." For a long time, that was the prevailing wisdom: celebrities should stick to acting and singing and leave the politics to the politicians.
But when it comes to an issue as emotionally charged as immigration policy, a new generation of stars has decided that silence is not an option. At the 2026 Grammy Awards, the red carpet was filled with artists using their platform to speak out directly against ICE. Winners like Bad Bunny and Billy Eilish made powerful statements, wearing protest symbols and using their acceptance speeches to draw attention to the issue.
They represent a major shift in celebrity culture, a move away from the carefully neutral, brand-safe celebrity of recent years. They are taking a page from the books of Jane Fonda and John Lennon, diving into outspoken activism to prove that some issues are just too important to ignore, no matter how famous you are.
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Edit: Yes, I agree that he should suffer in this lifetime too, multiple times over for the amount of pain and suffering he has caused families.
#15

I was covering a class of kids I really didn't know after the protest. One kid said to another "Hey, how come you didn't go out?" and he meekly and quietly responded "My dad works for ICE."
I felt bad for the kid, and he was clearly uncomfortable with it.
At the end of the day, after all the politics, the headlines, and the celebrity protests, you're still left with one, beautifully awkward question: what on earth do you talk about at Thanksgiving? The stories from these families are all about the art of the subject change, the delicate dance of navigating a conversation with someone you love who happens to have a job at the center of a national crisis.
It’s a uniquely modern American dilemma, a high-stakes version of the dinner table arguments we all know and love. It really makes you wonder, if you can’t talk about the weather, and you definitely can’t talk about work, what’s left? Just the mashed potatoes? Whatever you do, don't ask for ICE in your drink.
Do you have a family member leading the charge? Or maybe you are grappling with your own involvement? Share your thoughts in the comments!
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They're all pissed at the new policies. To quote one of them "You want me arresting and deporting the guy doing your roof rather that intercepting substance shipments? How does that make us more safe?"
EDIT: Just removed a detail I decided I shouldn't have shared about where they are in the organization. Probably too little too late, but whatever.
Edit 2: I am well aware that they are morally complicit and I am deeply disappointed that they are. If I were in their position, I probably would have quit.
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He’s an ex PA state trooper who foolishly quit to open a brewery (failed) and a restaurant (failing). He’s also a degenerate gambler who likely has large gambling debts.
He signed up because of the $50k bonus and overtime opportunities. Figured he can make $150k-$200k this year. Nevermind he has to relocate to Michigan and is leaving my cousin to close down the restaurant, sell their home, and wrap up her nursing career at the local hospital.
Her parents completely disapprove and this is both their second marriages. Doing whatever it takes to make it work but going right over the cliff in the process with him.
It makes me sad because she’s attractive and always has had a good career & work ethic. Just married two guys who are incredibly poor husbands.
#20

She went from going after actual criminals, and the absolute worst scum here illegally…..to going after little old lady housekeepers and people who have been here for decades that are easy to locate, and deporting them. SHE HATED IT. Finally retired. Said all her co workers who used to enjoy going after the bad guys are now also retiring or leaving.
Trump has them going after low hanging fruit. And she also said the people they are hiring are incompetent and no background checks.
Her last month of retirement, two of the new hires had to be escorted out when it was discovered 1 of them beat up the bus driver transporting from the academy. The other one, come to find out, was a violent serial rapist.
She was so happy to turn in her badge and gun.


