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There could be up to 10,000 cults in the United States alone. That's according to international cult expert Steve Eichel, who is the president of the International Cultic Studies Association. But it's difficult to pinpoint an exact figure.
"Most cults are extremely small and very deliberately try to stay under the radar," says Eichel. "Unless they commit a crime, unless they do something that draws attention to them—negative attention and criticism to them—we generally don't know about them."
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It's the Jehovah's Witnesses, in case you can't tell. The second wake-up came shorty thereafter when Australia revealed that they had a massive pedophile problem that they refuse to address. To this day, they are the only religion in Australia who refuses to apologize, reform or work with the authorities on how they can change anything, when they clearly are the worst of the bunch when it comes to systemic child mistreatement.
It is a horrible, repressive cult. Never join them or even study with them unless you do your google homework first.
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And all at once I went from being a good little JW kid to only doing what I absolutely had to because I still lived with my parents.
In a previous interview, Eichel told Bored Panda that cults vary tremendously in the content of their beliefs and rituals.
"Most people have heard of religious cults, but there are political cults, therapy cults, marketing cults, and cults that blend all of these together," he said. "However, their processes are usually very similar and that's how we recognize cults. Not by their 'crazy' beliefs, but by how people are treated in the group, and by the psychosocial processes they use to recruit and keep members."
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Edit: thanks for the upvotes. I’ve never really talked to anyone about it before but I’ve always wanted a chance to share so thank you for this.
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The word "cult" gets thrown around loosely nowadays, but Eichel says there are some ways to identify whether you're caught up in one. The first is pressure. "Any kind of pressure to make a quick decision about becoming involved in any intensive kind of activity or organization," the expert notes, is a red flag.
Eichel also warns that you should be wary of any leader who proclaims him or herself as having special powers, special insight, or divinity. Another giveaway is if the group is closed. "In other words," says Eichel, "although there may be outside followers, there's usually an inner circle that follows the leader without question, and that maintains a tremendous amount of secrecy."
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Mormons are historically racist and extremely sexist to boot. Their entire dogma reads like the insane ramblings of a hateful, exclusionary, lustful snake-oil salesman. Because it is.
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I just remember my friend Jake sitting in front of me starting to look around at all the other students who seemed to be kind of hypnotized by the whole thing. He caught my eye and said something like, "Whitewolf! What is this? Isn't this weird? This is wrong!" - and just for that something we had accepted as normal behavior became the launching point for seeing everything else they did from another perspective. Just to have another person in there with me that confirmed my eye-rolling and even alerted me that we actually were sitting in a Wednesday night brainwashing session.
Eichel told Bored Panda that cultic groups typically demand excessive commitments of time and money. "They engage in intensive 'education' classes (sometimes disguised as 'Bible study') that are basically indoctrination classes," he said.
They might also isolate their members. "Many cults cause estrangement or even total alienation from families of origin," he says. "They are deceptive in not being transparent about agendas, finances, the amount of coercion or control involved (e.g., you now have to give up your romantic life and only marry someone approved by the cult)."
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So we went to a big weekend conference and on Sunday morning they had church services for each religion that went on simultaneously before the last day of “business training.” I’m not a religious guy so I asked my group to just get me after church, and they agreed. So Sunday morning, someone comes to grab me from the hotel room and we head over. Low and behold it’s church (the Christian service) and they’re like “surprise! We thought you could use the good word!” And I was PISSED.
But the real deal breaker is what the “leader” of our MLM said, which I’ll never forget.
“We have business partners currently worshiping in our Jewish, Muslim, and Buddhist services. And we love them and support them...even though we know they’ll be in hell, because they can’t join us in the kingdom of heaven.”
I told them I was out on Monday.
TL;DR: Joined a MLM, went to a conference, got tricked into going to a church service, where the MLM leader essentially condemned people of other religions. Quit.
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They flipped out when I nope'd out.
One of the scariest things a cult leader might do is threaten members who want to leave.
"A very important aspect of cult is the idea that if you leave the cult, horrible things will happen to you," Eichel told us. "This is important, and it's important to realize that people outside of a cult are potential members, so they're not looked upon as negatively as people inside the cult who then leave the cult."
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1: My first time sitting in a crowded room while the elders or leaders of the group publicly announced someone being “disfellowshipped” or ex-communicated. Meaning they did something wrong and nobody was allowed to speak to them until they were reinstated. I just remember feeling so sick for them. They were publicly shamed and humiliated, and their family was also treated poorly usually. Everyone knew about their perceived wrong doings. Even as a little kid it just seemed so wrong to me. Shouldn’t we have been extra supportive and loving to people when they were struggling with bad choices? Shouldn’t we be encouraging? It felt so gross and cruel. I knew then something was wrong but I was only about 5 years old and if you questioned anything it meant satan was putting lies into your head so I always just kept my mouth shut. If you tried to get out you’d be shunned too and lose everyone you loved.
2: When I was 8 years old, struggling with my parents divorce and my dads subsequent exit from the “congregation”, and an older family member sat me down and told me that if I wanted to have a dad I needed to convince him to start going back to “meetings” and being a good member of the congregation otherwise he would be taken at Armageddon and I’d never see him again. What a messed up thing to tell a child.
These are just the two biggest instances that come to mind, but I have a whole lifetime of trauma from my years in the cult.
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It was when my then-husband decided that he could do as he wished with me, even if I was asleep. Our upline/mentors had been pushing the idea that he was the leader in our home and business. He made the decisions. I awoke a few nights to something I did not approve of or ask for and finally decided to cut and run.
This is putting it very simply, as I don’t want to relive the details.
Those who do manage to escape cults are often left with post-traumatic stress because of what they've experienced.
One study found that cult survivors in the United States experience PTSD at rates of 61.4% in men and 71.3% in women. Bear in mind that, according to the National Center for PTSD, the average rate of PTSD in Americans in general is around 6%.
"Grappling with your sense of self after a cult is another area where many ex-cult members suffer," reveals Ashlen Hilliard, a cult intervention specialist and founder of People Leave Cults. The expert says it's important to seek professional help after leaving or escaping a cult.
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Yeah.
I’m an atheist now.
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The moment I realized I needed to get out of the cult was when I was giving my pitch to a buddy of mine via text and he said I sounded like I was using ChatGPT to text him. Needless to say if anyone ever approaches you asking if you’re open to making additional income SAY NO.
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When I met Julie, she and I were both young, college-age students. She was a little bit spacey, a little new-agey, but hey, it's Maui, it's hard to find anyone here that *isn't*. And despite that, she seemed smarter about it than most people, even about most skeptics I've known. She used to do some meditation, and had some little hindu deity images and stuff, and she explained to me, in sort of an embarrassed way early on that she didn't really believe in the stuff and felt silly about it, but she felt like the meditation helped her, and that the trappings of the belief system helped her to keep it up. Sort of in the same way that runners having a morning routine helps them to get out the door for that morning run every day, her routine helped her to keep up this habit that she found helpful.
Now, the fact that I'm describing all this in past tense means you're seeing it with that wonderful clarity that hindsight brings, but at the time, the *craziness* of her beliefs were completely shrouded. We transferred off-island to a different university together we moved across the country and back together, and we lived together for another six years after that--eleven years together in total, before I found out that she was in a cult, and had been since before I met her.
I won't say there weren't *any* red flags. She could be remarkably stubborn about some surprisingly odd things. The one that jumps to mind immediately was when some radio show brought up the issue of human cloning, and she insisted that there was no reason ever to do it. I disagreed, and said that it could have medical benefits that didn't simply result in organ harvesting from a captive, living host or something horror-movie esque like that, and she insisted that she would never see it as worthwhile, no matter what. Just weird stuff like that, with no context.
During our time together, I wound up working at a hardware store to pay bills, and injured my right eye in such a way that I have permanent double-vision. It has become a struggle in my life, but it's one I work around and try to make the best of.
One night, at about 3:30am, I woke up in my dark bedroom, with something warm on my face, and the sound of chanting. Not like, demonic growly chanting like you hear in the movies, it sounded closer to someone trying to sing along the falsetto part of an 80's song on their headphones, where you just hear their awkward voice and not the music that goes along with it, or the tune that they're trying to match. It was Julie, and she had her hand on my face, chanting an invocation to the Medicine Buddha. Yes. The Medicine Buddha. My girlfriend of eleven years was trying to cure my eye with faith-healing.
So I tried having an early-morning talk with her. It turns out, she believes she's successfully done this before, healing an injured bird that she found. Let me tell you the story of that bird. She found it outside our home, and it was clearly sick or injured. She put it in a little box, but didn't bring it inside (because our cat would probably not help its health). She would give it food and sit outside with it, and I found out later that she would similarly chant over it. One day she woke up, and the bird was gone.
"And you think you healed it and it just flew away."
"What else could it be?"
I rattled off a list. Maybe the neighbor's cat found it in that box. Maybe its normal biological processes healed it, and it took off. Maybe a neighbor kid found it and took it home and convinced his dad to take it to a vet. Maybe our landlord found it outside and got rid of it. Etc. etc. etc. She wouldn't hear any of it.
And that's when she told me the whole story. When she was younger, she met a dude named Mark. Online, of course. Mark made her feel appreciated, which she didn't at home, and invited her to visit him in Toronto. When she got there, it turned out Mark is a key figure in a "religious group." His grandfather is the leader of said group (I think his biological grandfather, though I'm not sure on this point), and Mark himself "channels the voices of the deities." Julie told me that she herself had witnessed him channel the voice of the deity responsible for the creation of humans, and she was utterly convinced.
What's more, the group has a mission. You see, the deities speak to them through entertainment media, primarily movies and such, which I mean, why bother when you have a kid who can channel your voice directly, but what do I know? Anyway, what they've informed the leader of, is that China is working to develop a soulless clone army (ah-hah! That's why she was so against cloning!), and that they would use this army to take over the world. The group was set to be the resistance against them, and the ones who would rebuild after this apocalyptic war. She told me all this thinking I would be grateful for finally hearing the truth.
Instead, I tried to talk to her about critical thinking, and she wouldn't listen to any of it. She *could not believe* that I wasn't even considering the truth of what she told me, and basically shut down completely. We went from a mostly happy, ordinary couple to complete strangers in *two days*. It was wild.
We broke up very shortly after that. I couldn't be with someone who exercised no critical thinking at all, and she, apparently, couldn't be with someone who exercised any.
Julie went on to sabotage the budding relationship with the woman I started dating afterward as well, using my old passwords (which I'd never told her, but she had snooped out) to access my accounts and invade my privacy. So yeah, I lost eleven years of my life to a real winner, there.
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Without listening to that podcast I would have never in my life thought it was possible to be in a cult (or more in my case a cult like environment) but you can.
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